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Re: Most people won't

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I have some doubts about the CEO. It's very common in these kind of scenarios that either a) the same criticism / suggestions have been made regularly over a long time by people inside the company which have gone ignored, or b) the company has a culture in which that information never reaches the CEO, either out of fear or because of middle management layers. In both those cases, the CEO is actually mismanaging the c…

There may be a big amount of variables playing here that we might no be taking in consideration so I wouldn't say that. Even if that's the case, I think sometimes this is what needs to happen that makes you realize the change/s that has to be done to be better. (be more transparent, fire some managers or key people, etc.)

Just to be clear, I'm not saying this is the case here, but it's definitely a common scenario.

Either way it's a very strong vote of no confidence in the existing staff by the CEO.

Unless there is a long story of trying to improve the app internally, it appears this CEO decided at the bar that his own staff wasn't good enough and needed to be replaced with external consultants without considering other root causes (including himself).

Executives that are easily persuaded by the sales pitches of external consultants and don't listen to their own people are a dime a dozen.

Re: Most people won't

#72
post #17

Everybody so far is commenting on the woman who approached the CEO. Let's not forget the CEO, who committed and risked resources on a hunch or instinct or who-knows-what. If I had to pick one of the two to ask how they had the nerve to act and to learn from, I'd pick him. (Of course I'd prefer both and not to belittle her gumption and skills to back it up). - What did he see to suggest risking those resources? ... To…

I think he hedged that risk by asking 'what are the top three things that you'd fix in the app' or something like that. Don't remember the exact words.

Re: Most people won't

#73
post #32

I hate this self empowerment bullshit. Do people have any idea what this sounds like to people with actual, real problems? Your life can't be solved by positive thinking and being impulsive. In fact, I can make a very good case that that kind of attitude will create far more problems than it solves. Hell, I'm sure I could come up with _two_ anecdotes, which is already twice the evidence given by this blog post.

I didn't like the smugness of it. "We the entrepreneurial class do what others don't..."

Yes, you have to ask. And do. And put in tons of hard work.

Re: Most people won't

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post #17

Everybody so far is commenting on the woman who approached the CEO. Let's not forget the CEO, who committed and risked resources on a hunch or instinct or who-knows-what. If I had to pick one of the two to ask how they had the nerve to act and to learn from, I'd pick him. (Of course I'd prefer both and not to belittle her gumption and skills to back it up). - What did he see to suggest risking those resources? ... To…

When you are the CEO, you are both empowered and bound. Empowered to take risks, because the buck stops with you, but bound by the outcomes because there is nobody else to blame.

So yes he took a risk. This was one of many. If it didn't pay off, he could take others.

Re: Most people won't

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But what if the failure rate for those who do try is 99%? Trying isn't always zero-risk... I wonder if ambition could be subject to a cost/benefit analysis, haha. At some point I suppose you just have to let go of the numbers.

What's the cost/benefit breakdown of not taking the risk?

I don't really understand how we've ended up at this line of argument. There is no significant risk to talking shit at a bar. Other than the fact that being in the bar in the first place is generally a good way to avoid opportunities.

Re: Most people won't

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But I don't want to fix Air BnB's problems, I want to see them die in fire. I use it all the time, but I can't resist the urge to work there and burn the place to ground.

Why?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6507718 will suffice. If I think about it, I will start to get sick to my stomach.

Re: Most people won't

#77
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I hate this self empowerment bullshit. Yeah, same here. I mean, it's absurd to think that we have any control whatsoever over our fate. We clearly don't have agency or free will when you get right down to it. We are just particles in motion, deterministically following a path that was laid down by forces outside of our control, far before we were even born. It would be the height of hubris to think that we can wrest…

You are only able to make a conscious choice about things in your control. There are also a lot of things outside of your control. Blaming the victims of poverty and disease for their lack of success and positive thinking is a real downside of this empowerment movement. It's also used to exploit people and make them act against their own interests. All this american dream stuff and poor people protesting against publ…

You are only able to make a conscious choice about things in your control. There are also a lot of things outside of your control.

Of course there are things outside of our control. But since you can't control those things, there isn't a whole lot of point worrying about them, is there? (From the point of view of the individual).

I agree that there are systemic issues with "the system" as it exists today, and I have my ideas about how we should address some of those issues in terms of public policy, etc. But, at the end of the day, you can only play the cards you're dealt (so to speak).

What you can control, though, is your reaction to things, regardless of whether or not you can control those things. If something bad happens (you get dealt a bad hand) you can quit (fold), and jump in the bathtub with a toaster and end it all. Or you can soldier on and make the best of things, and maybe, just maybe, improve your lot.

I'm reminded of a couple of old sayings / parables I heard once. One goes like this:

A master was living in a house in the woods. One night, a storm came through and tore the roof off of his house. He said "I am happy, for now I can see the stars shining in the night sky more clearly".

The other is:

A man was running from a lion, when he came to the edge of a cliff, with a sheer plunge 1000 feet down to jagged rocks. With no where else to go, he went over the edge and started climbing down some vines. Now he's trapped, with rocks below him, and the lion above him. Then a mouse appears and starts chewing on the vine. He notices some strawberries growing on the cliff face and plucks a handful and eats them. They were the most delicious strawberries he ever had".

It's the perfect excuse to individualize all kind of problems. You just did not work enough and put not effort into it.

I guess it depends on your perspective, but - in my mind - this isn't about "blaming the victim" or anything. Life does suck sometimes, and some people certainly are dealt shitty hands. I just think that you can only take the hand you start from, and then make the best of it through conscious choice and effort.

And as somebody who grew up dirt poor in rural southeast NC, living below the poverty line for large swathes of time in my life, I've literally been through this. I could have accepted my lot in life as a poor, uneducated, country bumpkin, but I refused to do it. I couldn't control that my parents weren't wealthy, or that our public schools weren't great, or that my dad never graduated high-school and was basically illiterate. But I could control my actions, by choosing to spend my time in the library studying instead of hanging out behind the school playing handball and smoking weed... After high-school I could control choosing to work 3rd shift, buffing and waxing floors at a grocery story, then getting off work at 7am to drive 35 miles to be in class at 8:00. Believe me, Discrete Math at 8:00am when you've been up all night is no fun. And then going and sleeping on a couch in the library for an hour or two before your afternoon classes, that's no fun either. But I made a choice that I didn't want to be a poor, uneducated country bumpkin, so I made the sacrifices I had to make.

I could have gone out on dates, went bowling with my friends, gone to football games, and thousands of other things... but night after night after night I sat home alone with a stack of C and C++ books, downloading code from BBS's (and later, the Internet), learning to code and honing my skills.

It wasn't easy and there were tradeoffs (there is a reason I never got married and had kids, for example), but I got out of redneckville and have gone on to have a pretty decent career, and now I am the founder of a startup that has some real potential.

So, yeah, put me in the camp of people who do put a lot of stock in the idea of "individual empowerment", because I've experienced it firsthand.

Re: Most people won't

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It is, it has been done, statistically when it comes to financial success America is fast becoming one of the countries where its most unlikely to go from rags to riches. Its not a lie, its big data crunching the numbers that are out there, and those numbers say if you are poor you are most likely going to end poor, or perhaps dirt poor.

Nothing against you or the person who did that research, but: fuck statistics. Eventually one gets to defy them!

Seriously? Fuck statistics?

Re: Most people won't

#79
post #32

I hate this self empowerment bullshit. Do people have any idea what this sounds like to people with actual, real problems? Your life can't be solved by positive thinking and being impulsive. In fact, I can make a very good case that that kind of attitude will create far more problems than it solves. Hell, I'm sure I could come up with _two_ anecdotes, which is already twice the evidence given by this blog post.

They've done studies that show if you force yourself to smile, even if you're in a bad mood, it'll make you happier. Even if it's forced, it still helps. This same idea can be applied to self-empowerment and it works for people. Just because it's cheesy doesn't mean it doesn't work. I mean, even knowing you're taking a placebo can still lead to positive outcomes.

OK, smiling is a behavior that is typically evocative of happiness, and it turns out that smiling actually induces a small level of happiness even if you weren't happy before. I follow you so far.

Therefore, you can... act self-empowered, which can make you feel self-empowered, even if you're not actually self-empowered? You're starting to lose me here. How are these ideas related at all?

edit: I see; you mean that if people BELIEVE that acting as though they are successful will help them become successful, then it actually might help them become successful as their expectations influence their actions. Fake it 'till you make it.

Re: Most people won't

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post #15

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But what if the failure rate for those who do try is 99%? Trying isn't always zero-risk... I wonder if ambition could be subject to a cost/benefit analysis, haha. At some point I suppose you just have to let go of the numbers.

If you are looking for reasons to not try, you're going to find an endless supply of them. I've done a lot of things that people relentlessly told me I had no chance of accomplishing.

You are either...

1. Extraordinary, and able to achieve what others cannot. 2. Lucky, and by chance successful in an area where success is hard to find. 3. Being told that you have no chance of accomplishing things that are actually not very hard. 4. A living example of how anybody can do that which they set their mind to.

If you're 1, then other people can't use your experience as a guideline. If you're 2, then people can't use your experience as a guideline. If you're 3, then people can't use your experience as a guideline.

If you think you're 4, then you're either 1, 2, or 3, and just don't realize it yet.

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