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If you add salt to the ice it'll chill even faster.
Didn't mythbusters do an episode on this once? Fastest way to cool a beer, or something like that? They concluded that the fastest was to use a CO2 fire extinguisher.
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Dry ice will, ironically, make your soda go completely flat as it constantly agitates the drink as it boils/sublimes away.
Cubes of frozen alcohol might work. Maybe with a little frozen C02 mixed in for certain drinks.
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I think she meant reverse microwave oven. As in, rather than heating fast, it cools fast.
That is like calling ice a reverse fire. If the technology doesn't have anything to do with microwaves, I don't see how the "reverse microwave" adds anything but confusion. It's not as though "chills beer in 45 seconds" is so vague as to require a strained microwave analogy.
There used to be a chilling device as a party store near my house. There was a tub of super-chilled green or blue liquid that was in a whirlpool of sorts, and you could dunk your just-purchased drink in there for 1 minute and it would be cold when you took it out. But doesn't beer benefit from always staying cold?
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I voted you up for truth. But... don't discount the profound disappointment that a headline like that generates in those of us who do know how a microwave works. We were teased with the idea of learning something we thought would alter our understanding of the universe -- some sort of microwave version of the peltier effect[1] -- only to find out it was something as pedestrian as poetic license. [1] https://en.wikipe…
Those who know physics would hopefully know that a cooling microwave would be a blatant violation of the second law of thermodynamics.
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I'm skeptical about the energy claims. How much of a difference is the continuous cooling of a can of beverage going to cost when you still have to keep the refrigerator running anyway? Plus energy grids prefer a gradual and predictable energy draw than a sudden spike. Otherwise we end up with scenarios like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDAvewWfrA
So the energy savings are not in the individual cooling process.
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I voted you up for truth. But... don't discount the profound disappointment that a headline like that generates in those of us who do know how a microwave works. We were teased with the idea of learning something we thought would alter our understanding of the universe -- some sort of microwave version of the peltier effect[1] -- only to find out it was something as pedestrian as poetic license. [1] https://en.wikipe…
Those who know physics would hopefully know that a cooling microwave would be a blatant violation of the second law of thermodynamics.
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I voted you up for truth. But... don't discount the profound disappointment that a headline like that generates in those of us who do know how a microwave works. We were teased with the idea of learning something we thought would alter our understanding of the universe -- some sort of microwave version of the peltier effect[1] -- only to find out it was something as pedestrian as poetic license. [1] https://en.wikipe…
Those who know physics would hopefully know that a cooling microwave would be a blatant violation of the second law of thermodynamics.
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Those who know physics would hopefully know that a cooling microwave would be a blatant violation of the second law of thermodynamics.
Oddly enough, your response is basically the same sort of overly-narrow literalism that gojomo was complaining about, just from the other direction.
"reverse microwave" is correct in a sense, because as gojomo pointed out, the author meant it as a way to convey the concept of "rapid-heating appliance".
"You can't do x because of thermodynamics" actually was incorrect, and didn't take into account multiple specific instances which show that closed systems can create such results.
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Since we are going off on a tangent, a cool camping hack when you don't have ice is to stuff a beer in a tube sock, dunk it in water, and hang/tie it to a tree branch in the shade. If there is even a touch of wind it will be nice and cold in 10 minutes.
I wonder if you wound up the sock and let it spin if you'd get something virtually equivalent to this machine.