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Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by Jtsummers »

judk wrote: post #52
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is no conspiracy. Ignoring that larger sites have better page rank, they can also spend more on SEO. Ma and Pop's widget shop is a wordpress clunker built by their teen son. He's not spending 20 hours a week watching metrics and messing with SEO. $big_shop_webmaster certainly is.

That's a bug. Google claims that quality content wins over SEO. And WordPress is professionally written software.

> And WordPress is professionally written software.

So are many web servers, why would this affect ranking? Content, not platform should be the determiner (though some hosted content might get penalized because of others using the same host).

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by lnanek2 »

JonSkeptic wrote: post #3

I think this is interesting because it matches my user experience with Google products in a very inverted way. Google search has gotten worse and worse lately, forcing me on to other search engines with worse UIs just so that I can get useful results. Youtube UI gets worse every time they update it. They cancelled the RSS reader. The email UI keeps getting worse and featuring more ads. But the stock value hit $1000.…

Agreed. They are removing features that were quite valuable for me, especially in apps like Google Maps, and I absolutely hate the new ads that look like email rows in GMail and don't let me delete them. I can move off their web email client, but Maps is tough to replace. Will have to move to Apple or Nokia or something.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by moultano »

JonSkeptic wrote: post #3

I think this is interesting because it matches my user experience with Google products in a very inverted way. Google search has gotten worse and worse lately, forcing me on to other search engines with worse UIs just so that I can get useful results. Youtube UI gets worse every time they update it. They cancelled the RSS reader. The email UI keeps getting worse and featuring more ads. But the stock value hit $1000.…

If you have any example bad queries, I'd love to see them to debug. If you have your search history on, you can find them here: https://history.google.com/history/

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by lnanek2 »

patrickk wrote: post #65
ChrisClark wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's all subjective but I love the new Gmail interfaces, Hangouts is much better than Talk and keeps getting better. Google+ photos is so much better than Picasa, I love how I can search for 'blue cars' in my photos and it returns them even though I've never tagged any of them. Android has seen enormous improvements, I love stock 4.3 and Google Now. Chrome's new 'native' apps wrapper-like thing is neat. Even Youtube…

I'm using a poor internet connection (because of geography) and my experience is that the usability of Youtube has gone down dramatically. They made a change a while back where the video will only buffer a few seconds beyond where you've paused it. Previously, you could go a few seconds into the video, pause it, and let it buffer 100% in whatever quality you needed, now I find myself having to constantly pause the vi…

Ah, I was wondering why I kept leaving videos in tabs to buffer nowadays and they just never did it any more. Very sad day. ;/ Sucks for someone on a mobile connection 99% of the time like me.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by icefox »

jwcooper wrote: post #25
turing wrote: post #14

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And in my experience Google products have gotten significantly better and more polished in the last few years. Goes to show that their products aren't getting worse , just shifting in focus and priority.

Some products have improved, and some have gotten worse (losing Exchange on Gmail, Reader, Google Talk, Google Checkout) and some haven't changed in years (Google Finance). I use a lot of Google services, and it's frustrating when they keep removing features, or killing off products that I use daily. It's gotten to the point where I'd rather pay for a service now and be the customer rather than signing up for another…

Google finance is one of those apps that seems to just work, but if you try to actually use it you keep hitting bugs. My latest bug is that it thinks UUU should redirect to UUU.TO I keep end up going and using yahoo finance for quick things, what about you guys?

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by temuze »

nonchalance wrote: post #42
dragontamer wrote: post #27

The value of a company is not measured in its individual stock price, but instead measured in its market cap. The real headline should be: Google hits $330 Billion market cap, making it the 3rd most valuable company in the world.

$1000/sh seems like a more momentous headline than $330B market cap. On the other hand, It's more likely that we see the headline "$1T company" than "$3030.30/sh"

Breaking news: Prominent company's stock value gets to big round number.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by icefox »

oellegaard wrote: post #26
JonSkeptic wrote: post #3

I think this is interesting because it matches my user experience with Google products in a very inverted way. Google search has gotten worse and worse lately, forcing me on to other search engines with worse UIs just so that I can get useful results. Youtube UI gets worse every time they update it. They cancelled the RSS reader. The email UI keeps getting worse and featuring more ads. But the stock value hit $1000.…

+1 Their new Google Apps control panel is impossible to use. It has icons that doesn't correspond to the function and no labels. It's like walking around in a nuclear control panel with no lights on. While I'm moving my e-mail away from Google, the last thing I still use is the search, which still feels light weight and easy to use.

Yeah I switched my domain to Google Apps this year and somewhat regret it. It is pretty clear that Google Apps might work, but clearly it is made for the guy that is being paid to deal with its interface and can spend hours if not days just getting basic things working as he tries to figure out the docs (most all public discussions of course talk about the old control panel and link are busted etc) when he runs into a problem. And as a bonus anyone else notice how the POP interface fails to implement a core "feature" of pop. When using POP with google apps and you try to delete an email it doesn't actually get deleted. tricky tricky

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by Semaphor »

wtvanhest wrote: post #17
turing wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And in my experience Google products have gotten significantly better and more polished in the last few years. Goes to show that their products aren't getting worse , just shifting in focus and priority.

Which products specifically have gotten better?

Android and the play store. The DFP API (their only API I'm using)

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by Semaphor »

patrickk wrote: post #65
ChrisClark wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's all subjective but I love the new Gmail interfaces, Hangouts is much better than Talk and keeps getting better. Google+ photos is so much better than Picasa, I love how I can search for 'blue cars' in my photos and it returns them even though I've never tagged any of them. Android has seen enormous improvements, I love stock 4.3 and Google Now. Chrome's new 'native' apps wrapper-like thing is neat. Even Youtube…

I'm using a poor internet connection (because of geography) and my experience is that the usability of Youtube has gone down dramatically. They made a change a while back where the video will only buffer a few seconds beyond where you've paused it. Previously, you could go a few seconds into the video, pause it, and let it buffer 100% in whatever quality you needed, now I find myself having to constantly pause the vi…

YouTube Center [1] allows you to disable Dash [2]. I had the same problem and worse, before I could autoplay 720p video but with Dash that didn't work.

[1] https://github.com/YePpHa/YouTubeCenter/wiki

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Adaptive_Streaming_over...

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by krelian »

anon1385 wrote: post #36
sharkweek wrote: post #19

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Yes -- http://i.imgur.com/vFwD9xr.png

Ads depend on your location etc. We have had a discussion about this same example before and plenty of people got similar results: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6533287 e.g. http://i.imgur.com/mhJhc5W.png and http://i.imgur.com/2iFv7Yf.png And for what it's worth, this is the result I got just now in the UK: http://i.imgur.com/YHXngwR.png

You are a showing a handpicked example which is disingenuous and not representative of real user experience. You decided to include a one-time cookie message that pushes down the content and not include the actual search results which are further down the page. FWIW the visitor that used this query got a clear answer to what bitcoin is and I'm pretty sure that any of the "small businesses" that are advertising in that spot are not deserving to be the first result for that query anyway so no conspiracy here.
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