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Page 5: "Terrorist with Tor client installed" And its a picture of a guy with a bandit mask and an AK-47. I don't know about you guys, but all my Tor activities are performed in my Halloween costume! I honestly can't believe something this tacky would end up in a presentation. Is this supposed to be propaganda?

"Terrorist" -- as everyone knew it would become -- is now shorthand for anyone undesirable or anyone targeted for any reason.

Recall this line from Blade Runner:

> Replicants are like any other machine. They're either a benefit or a hazard. If they're a benefit, it's not my problem.

These people's job is to fight (their government's definition of) terrorists. It's not automatically in the job description to develop a nuanced view of terrorism, of various categories of hackers, etc. -- except to whatever degree it helps them to understand their enemy and thereby stop them.

People often do this even in jobs where the stakes are lower -- if you're running a struggling grocery store competing with a SuperWalMart, WalMart are the bad guys, even if the people who work at WalMart are perfectly nice people just trying to earn some money to raise a family.

Having said that, yes -- it's obviously particularly dangerous to go around branding anyone you have a problem with a terrorist.

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Page 5: "Terrorist with Tor client installed" And its a picture of a guy with a bandit mask and an AK-47. I don't know about you guys, but all my Tor activities are performed in my Halloween costume! I honestly can't believe something this tacky would end up in a presentation. Is this supposed to be propaganda?

Can we pleeeeease make this the new default icon for the OnionBrowser Bundle? (edited to remove broken image link)

I'm getting 404.

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Page 5: "Terrorist with Tor client installed" And its a picture of a guy with a bandit mask and an AK-47. I don't know about you guys, but all my Tor activities are performed in my Halloween costume! I honestly can't believe something this tacky would end up in a presentation. Is this supposed to be propaganda?

and a beard... like terrorists can be stereotyped like that. This is more than just propaganda, this is the mentality of the type of people who put these presentations together. That fact that whoever wrote this presentation has profiled people like this. I would wager that 99% of online "terrorists" are sitting around in jeans and t-shirts, on safe soil, have probably never handled a gun, let alone an AK-47 (or what…

You shouldn't be divulging information like this ... now all the terrorists will shave and we'll be toast!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the new red scare, the new Soviet. We American's require a boogeyman. In all fairness, most countries do. Watching South American leaders lately shows the exact same behavior. Find a foreign devil for everyone to rally against to hide domestic issues.

Soviets were not some bogeyman. They were real, their spies were real, and the international communist movement they sponsored was real. Rosenbergs and others did spy for the Soviets. They did successfully transfer secrets related to the atomic bomb. And they were ideologically motivated.

Communist would have been a better word to use than Soviet. Soviet was relatively specific, but broad swaths of the world got labelled communist. While it's true that the Soviets were more than boogeymen, I think that the broader point stands that Americans (and everyone else really) tend to have some convenient, reductionist label to apply to "others" that is broadly taken as a synonym for "evildoer". "Terrorist" is the fashionable label today.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure Tor does smart peer profiling/selection to optimize for throughput. Lots of people run Tor relays on their silly little home DSLs and Tor still works.

Which is why the slide also talks about reporting as if being a high throughput node. i.e. Report back that you're handling a lot of traffic quickly while handling traffic very badly. Does Tor have protection against a node doing that?

I'm pretty sure Tor profiles against this as well. There's a presentation somewhere on YouTube addressing just this problem.

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Today's full Tor coverage by the Guardian is: (Greenwald's article) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/nsa-gchq-attack... (Schneier's article) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa... (Leaked doc #1) http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/tor... (Leaked doc #2) http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/ego... (Leaked doc #3) http://www.theguardian.com/…

PDFs of the leaked documents:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/8014...

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/801434/doc2.pdf

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/801435/doc3.pdf

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