China was not invited to participate in the ISS-1 due to fears it would steal Western aeronautical technology. Well, it looks like they have taken anything they wanted. So we might just build the post 2025 ISS-2 with them.
China never asked to participate in the ISS. If they had wanted to, they could probably have joined. "The west doesn't want us to join their space station project" was pure politburo PR bullshit. (Source: I worked at NASA at the time)
China to launch space station by 2023
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Re: China to launch space station by 2023
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China never asked to participate in the ISS. If they had wanted to, they could probably have joined. "The west doesn't want us to join their space station project" was pure politburo PR bullshit. (Source: I worked at NASA at the time)
http://www.justice.gov/olc/2011/conduct-diplomacy.pdf
? Not sure the relevance. That post-dates the China/ISS issue by years, and anyway is about NASA doing it's own diplomacy, which it shouldn't have been. That's State Department's business - just like it was when Space Station Freedom turned into ISS and the Russians got on board.
The Chinese could have worked with the State Department, Russia, Europeans, Japanese and Canadians to join the ISS program and it would have been legal. They deliberately chose not to.
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I think it's dumb to "compete" with a new space station, when the Earth already has a space station that could use some more support and innovation. I can't wait for China's leadership to get through their "look, we're a power too" phase. The world would be a much better place, and I would argue China would be a better place, if China's leadership was not so obsessed with the optics of whether or not they are a super…
Well... to be fair... China has to build their own space station because the US objected to China's participation in the ISS program.
Wow, you're right. I did not know that. That definitely changes my opinion of the situation. I understand the U.S. reasons for concern, but now I also understand why the Chinese are going it alone. Thanks.
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Yes, they are both hypocrites :) (Seriously though, degree and frequency are different things)
Maybe, but you and cygwin98 are seemingly the only ones confused/pedantic enough to care.
Hey now, there are different degrees of caring. I care 10% and cygwin98 cares 90%.