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Re: Humble Indie Bundle 9 released

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Post by jeltz »

laureny wrote: post #70
jerf wrote: post #19

I've slowly been transitioning to Linux-only gaming, because the whole reboot-into-Windows just to play is a pretty steep bar. (Steeper than it even sounds in practice, as now, basically, every time I boot into Windows I have to spend about 10 minutes updating the damn thing, because I don't do it often enough; this has become a vicious cycle.) This bundle is great for that, with all the Linux debuts. Linux gaming is…

I don't see much reason to rejoice, all the games you see running on Linux are not doing so because they were specifically written for Linux but because the developers used Unity or Game Maker. Nothing wrong with that, the more such games the better, but it just speaks volumes to the fact that Linux is as fringe on the desktop as it ever was. Frankly, I don't understand why gamers who happen to use Linux and who love…

That is an exaggeration, and I do not see what is the bad thing about many of the games being written in Unity either.

Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4 run on Paradox's internal game engine which was ported to Linux due to Steam. I believe the same is also true for Serious Sam 3 from Croteam. And there is 4A Games who are making Metro: Last Light with their own game engine. I do not think Football manager 2014 will be using an engine like Unity either, but I do not play sports management games.

Re: Humble Indie Bundle 9 released

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Post by SEMW »

milesf wrote: post #26

Gotta say I'm really impressed with the Humble Bundles. I buy most of them, and still can't believe how cheap they are, assuming you get in early. Their "unlock more products by paying more than the average" is sheer genius. Most people will pay just a hair over the average, which causes the price to creep up as the bundle gets older. So to get the best deal, you have to buy in early. I don't know of any other bundle…

> So to get the best deal, you have to buy in early.

Thanks for the advice. I wouldn't want to give any more to the EFF, Child's Play, or Watsi than I absolutely have to.

OK, apologies for the sarcasm, but, well— advice on how to pay as little money as possible, while usually great, strikes me as being in poor taste when the money is going to charity (and/or the indie developers, in whatever proportions you specify).

Re: Humble Indie Bundle 9 released

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Post by jerf »

laureny wrote: post #70
jerf wrote: post #19

I've slowly been transitioning to Linux-only gaming, because the whole reboot-into-Windows just to play is a pretty steep bar. (Steeper than it even sounds in practice, as now, basically, every time I boot into Windows I have to spend about 10 minutes updating the damn thing, because I don't do it often enough; this has become a vicious cycle.) This bundle is great for that, with all the Linux debuts. Linux gaming is…

I don't see much reason to rejoice, all the games you see running on Linux are not doing so because they were specifically written for Linux but because the developers used Unity or Game Maker. Nothing wrong with that, the more such games the better, but it just speaks volumes to the fact that Linux is as fringe on the desktop as it ever was. Frankly, I don't understand why gamers who happen to use Linux and who love…

As attempts to piss on my parade go, that was very tepid and half-hearted. I suggest more spittle; that always gets attention.

Re: Humble Indie Bundle 9 released

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Post by jeltz »

shmerl wrote: post #56
jerf wrote: post #19

I've slowly been transitioning to Linux-only gaming, because the whole reboot-into-Windows just to play is a pretty steep bar. (Steeper than it even sounds in practice, as now, basically, every time I boot into Windows I have to spend about 10 minutes updating the damn thing, because I don't do it often enough; this has become a vicious cycle.) This bundle is great for that, with all the Linux debuts. Linux gaming is…

DRM free Linux gaming is still lagging behind though. We need GOG on board to boost the progress.

Many of the indie games at Steam are DRM free. It is just hard to find that information.

Re: Humble Indie Bundle 9 released

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Post by PebblesRox »

daxelrod wrote: post #57
breadbox wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the first game indie game bundle; they've been branching out. (The previous bundle was a bunch of standup comedy videos, actually.) But I completely agree. In fact, in the wake of Snowden, I made a mental note to pay extra attention to the next Humble Bundle charity split. I was planning to send it all directly to the EFF, but now I've realized that I can't just stiff everyone else. In the end, I paid double…

> This is the first game indie game bundle Are you talking about Humble Bundle? The first few Humble Bundles were all indie games.

I believe they're talking about the post-Snowden bundles.

Re: Humble Indie Bundle 9 released

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Post by CrystalCuckoo »

wmf wrote: post #42
kzrdude wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a very, very memorable game, but what do you think about replayability? I can't really bring myself to play it again.

There are so many games being released that I appreciate a game that I can play through in 10-20 hours and then put aside. Speaking of Mark of the Ninja specifically, I thought new game plus mode was fun because you can use abilities unlocked later in the game in the early levels, and there's a DLC coming soon.

Are you talking about the Special Edition DLC? It's already out: http://store.steampowered.com/app/239570/

Hopefully it will be included in the bundle as the week progresses.

Re: Humble Indie Bundle 9 released

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Post by shmerl »

jeltz wrote: post #74
shmerl wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DRM free Linux gaming is still lagging behind though. We need GOG on board to boost the progress.

Many of the indie games at Steam are DRM free. It is just hard to find that information.

Supporting Steam itself helps DRM proliferation, so I don't use it at all. Indies which are on Steam usually find ways to be distributed outside it in a DRM free fashion (Humble Store, Desura, directly from developers and etc). It's mostly big budget games with Linux versions which appear on Steam lately or plan to appear there that are a problem. Since they are not sold anywhere else.

For example while Metro Last Light is going to be ported to Linux, it will be tied to Steam for no apparent reason (it doesn't strictly depend on any Steam lock-in features). I.e. it's the common urge for DRM that drives this.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2013/09/10/metro-...

Why I mentioned GOG - it's the only major distributor now who can seriously compete with Steam. And they have a clear DRM free stance unlike the later.

Re: Humble Indie Bundle 9 released

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Post by ekianjo »

jerf wrote: post #45
rschmitty wrote: post #32

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I suppose it's personal preference on your desktop OS, but I stick to Win7 and linux VMs. No rebooting, no wine, all games work :) I'd much rather run VMs for linux stuff than wine for windows stuff. Now if you prefer [insert window manager of your choice] over Win7 then I get ya

"Now if you prefer [insert window manager of your choice]" I've gone deep down that hole. XMonad, fairly custom, custom keyboard layout, custom emacs... occasional light gaming is all I do now that Windows has an advantage for me personally. YMMV. One nice thing about Ubuntu still being based on Debian is that it's easy to install enough to satisfy Steam and all the games, since Ubuntu is what they target, while leav…

Steam works perfectly under OpenSUSE as well. You don't need Ubuntu at all.

Re: Humble Indie Bundle 9 released

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Post by ekianjo »

shmerl wrote: post #77
jeltz wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of the indie games at Steam are DRM free. It is just hard to find that information.

Supporting Steam itself helps DRM proliferation, so I don't use it at all. Indies which are on Steam usually find ways to be distributed outside it in a DRM free fashion (Humble Store, Desura, directly from developers and etc). It's mostly big budget games with Linux versions which appear on Steam lately or plan to appear there that are a problem. Since they are not sold anywhere else. For example while Metro Last Li…

Yeah but GOG clearly said they do not want to support Linux distributions anyway, so I'm not sure what you are hoping for. I prefer supporting Steam which in turn helps more ports to Linux, rather than waiting for something that may never come from GOG.
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