Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose • Hacker News Board

Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose

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Post by thezilch » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:40 PM UTC

Clicking the "Full-screen" button on the compose modal shows the following dialogue; perhaps the author just closed the tip?

  Click here to exit full-screen.
  (Shift + click to compose in a new window.)

  You can set full-screen as your default using
  the More menu next to Discard.

Likewise, the tooltip on the "Full-screen" button states Full-screen (Shift for Pop-out). And for someone that spends so much time in email, like a developer and his IDE, it might be time to improve one's efficiency with keyboard coords -- gmail shortcuts (https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6594) -- and use Shift+c (popup) or Shift+d (tab) composition.

Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose

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Post by xur17 » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:42 PM UTC

plorkyeran wrote: post #66

ihnorton wrote: post #27

Lately I've had a persistent feeling of annoyance with several Google products. Each annoyance is small enough to tolerate individually, but in aggregate it seems to me that Google has really lost something in the attention-to-detail department; this kind of persistent annoyance was the same thing that led me to Google from other services years ago. Two examples: - maps: new interface is so terrible that I am activel…

Everything about the new Google Maps besides the maps themselves is so mindbogglingly bad that I have no idea how they thought it was ready for public consumption. It seems to be missing most of the features of the classic Google Maps, and those that are present are far harder to use. The UI for the public transit schedules is pretty much the only thing that seems like it could be an improvement once I get used to it…

I've especially been missing the ability to make directions with multiple stops (I used to use that feature about 50% of the time). Also, the interface is a lot slower - it's tolerable on my 1 year old computer, but it's close to unusable on my 5 year old laptop.

Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose

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Post by gbog » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:44 PM UTC

ihnorton wrote: post #27

Lately I've had a persistent feeling of annoyance with several Google products. Each annoyance is small enough to tolerate individually, but in aggregate it seems to me that Google has really lost something in the attention-to-detail department; this kind of persistent annoyance was the same thing that led me to Google from other services years ago. Two examples: - maps: new interface is so terrible that I am activel…

- in Google plus, scroll down the steam, then decide you want to use j k to navigate, pof! you are back on top.

- in Google plus, you need to play maze to avoid the pop ups.

- contacts takes ages to load, when I usually use it only for a little tweak that should take 3 sec.

Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose

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Post by lnanek2 » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:45 PM UTC

I really hate that thing as well. Although it isn't just supposed to be quick, it is supposed to allow referencing several other emails while you write. Which I don't do so it is terrible for me.

Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose

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Post by dcurtis » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:47 PM UTC

rajivtiru wrote: post #28

md224 wrote: post #25

Umm... powered by Storystrings, but features the Svbtle network's Kudos button (as "cheers")... is there a connection here, or is the former borrowing from the latter?

Using the github library here: https://github.com/masukomi/kudos Also from the sourcecode on this blog: " rel="nofollow">https://github.com/masukomi/kudos-->

Interesting that someone took my code, nearly character-for-character, and "open sourced" it without permission.

Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose

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Post by ams6110 » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:48 PM UTC

Doesn't gmail still offer imap? Use a real mail client, not a web page. Much more fulfilling in almost every way. I like emacs, because I like to be able to write emails using the same editor I use for everything else. But that's a preference. There are many good mail clients to choose from.

Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose

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Post by Avshalom » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:49 PM UTC

dasil003 wrote: post #65

Avshalom wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoa whoa whoa. short by definition ? I use email to you know write to people if I want short I can text or chat or tweet or smoke signal. I rather assume email is long by definition.

Okay I played fast and loose, but I meant this: By definition of the length of a day, if you are sending any serious volume of emails then most of them are going to be short.

That still begs the question that gmail is meant for a specific cross section of corporate users, instead of it's apparent market of everyone.

Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose

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Post by fdej » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:51 PM UTC

cheapsteak wrote: post #39

rajivtiru wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just figured out that last point about google URLs today. I wanted to copy/paste a link in a chat window but the google redirect url is so long it takes up the whole chat window and more! Instead of the domain.com/word I wanted.

If you're using chrome, you might want to check out this extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/remove-google-redi...

For Firefox, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/google-no-tra...

Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose

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Post by gbog » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:54 PM UTC

plorkyeran wrote: post #66

ihnorton wrote: post #27

Lately I've had a persistent feeling of annoyance with several Google products. Each annoyance is small enough to tolerate individually, but in aggregate it seems to me that Google has really lost something in the attention-to-detail department; this kind of persistent annoyance was the same thing that led me to Google from other services years ago. Two examples: - maps: new interface is so terrible that I am activel…

Everything about the new Google Maps besides the maps themselves is so mindbogglingly bad that I have no idea how they thought it was ready for public consumption. It seems to be missing most of the features of the classic Google Maps, and those that are present are far harder to use. The UI for the public transit schedules is pretty much the only thing that seems like it could be an improvement once I get used to it…

The New Android map app is bad too. Rip the menu button, no way to get other routes suggestions anymore, I didn't find a quick way to switch from navigate view to route view.

All that is still the move toward less and less control for the user, initiated by Apple. I hope Google can revert soon, now that it is actually Apple which is coping with Google.

Re: Anxiety over the new Gmail Compose

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Post by 15charusername » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 11:56 PM UTC

mavhc wrote: post #47

dasil003 wrote: post #29

The self-righteous anger about the irredeemable horror of the new Gmail compose is starting to get a bit old. First of all, it's not as one-sided as people are making it out. I was also annoyed when it first came out, but there are some clear benefits. Being able to browse email in the background while composing email is a huge win for my email workload (CTO for a 30-person company). There are some important philosop…

> Being able to browse email in the background while composing email is a huge win for my email workload If only someone had invented a windowing GUI. My main issues, now I've set the default to fullish screen, is it's more like Outlook: editing the To/CC fields is annoying, and it wants you to always quote the entire email. I await a Chrome extension to let me live in the past with people who knew how to use compute…

>If only someone had invented a windowing GUI.

At work I have to use a mac, it's a PITA to manage multiple non fullscreen windows on it. There is also a fair amount of screen estate lost per window.