How I hate these stenographer-to-the-powerful articles. The guy makes his money as a consultant to airlines; he here gives the official side of things under cover of perfect anonymity and official deniability. He does it while pretending to be a neutral arbiter of fact, showing no skepticism at all about official claims. And, naturally, he doesn't bother to follow up with the author of the blog post he responded to.…
Did The TSA and JetBlue Deny Travel For Looking Muslim During Ramadan? No
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Prove to me they didn't search his home without serving him a warrant and then we'll talk about the accuracy of this story. Can't really prove a negative - what would the evidence look like? The reasonable question to ask is "prove to me they did search his home without serving him a warrant."
Did you read the original article? If so re-read the very end of it to acquaint yourself with the evidence that his apartment was searched without a warrant. Edit: P.S. note that I said evidence not proof. P.P.S. I find it somewhat weird how people are so eager to jump to the defense of law enforcement with shouts of "that evidence proves nothing!" while at the same time supporting the idea that a now known to be fal…
None of us on here know exactly what happened but the above seems (to me) just as likely as law enforcement breaking into his apartment. I would think they would also visit the apartment/residence he was vacating.
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#73> Mr. Mukerjee appears to have been flagged by the Behaviour Detection Officer (BDO) while in line for what appeared to be unusual behaviours. Well I'm sold. Serves you right for looking suspicious in front of the Looking-suspicious Detection Officer!
Every time people complain about the TSA and are asked how they should do security people say they should evaluate the person - look for signs of nervousness and things like that. And now they do and you complain anyway. So - what's your preferred method of screening people?
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#75"Transportation Security Officers, a Supervisory Transportation Security Officer, a Transportation Security Manager, a Transportation Security Specialist – Explosives, an Assistant Federal Security Director for Law Enforcement, a Lead Transportation Security Officer, Port Authority Police Officers, a Department of Homeland Security Special Agent, two agents assigned to the Joint Terrorism Task Force and a representative from JetBlue Corporate Security." -that's alot of various people from various agencies.
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Deciding if I am detained: a rule of thumb.
If I receive word about an urgent emergency, such as my wife being hit by a bus or about to give birth, can I immediately go to the hospital? If yes, I am free. If not, I am detained.
This rule breaks down a bit on amusement park rides, but one would assume the ride operators would immediately let you off if you could communicate with them and, in any case, you're only going to be stuck there for a couple of minutes at the most.
Mukerjee was not in "limbo". He was detained. When someone chooses to redefine words White-House-style I tend to view whatever else they say as though they are serving an agenda.
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#77> Mr. Mukerjee appears to have been flagged by the Behaviour Detection Officer (BDO) while in line for what appeared to be unusual behaviours. Well I'm sold. Serves you right for looking suspicious in front of the Looking-suspicious Detection Officer!
Every time people complain about the TSA and are asked how they should do security people say they should evaluate the person - look for signs of nervousness and things like that. And now they do and you complain anyway. So - what's your preferred method of screening people?
Putting aside the obvious falsehood ("every time") there's obviously a little critical analysis required to differentiate between people who are nervous because they don't like getting airplanes, people who are nervous because they're about to miss their flight, people who are just generally anxious, and people who are nervous because they're about to blow up an airplane.
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#78> Mr. Mukerjee appears to have been flagged by the Behaviour Detection Officer (BDO) while in line for what appeared to be unusual behaviours. Well I'm sold. Serves you right for looking suspicious in front of the Looking-suspicious Detection Officer!
Every time people complain about the TSA and are asked how they should do security people say they should evaluate the person - look for signs of nervousness and things like that. And now they do and you complain anyway. So - what's your preferred method of screening people?
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#79whether it was blogged about or not, it seems like this author obtaining and reporting so much internal detail about this incident is an incident unto itself. also, his shilling herein for TSA and Jet Blue smells like a conflict of interest: Steven Frischling, aka: Fish, is... airline emerging media consultant working with large global airlines...
I popped his name into google to see what else he did. Judging from the autocomplete he appears to have pissed off some people previously.
Some articles that caught my eye: http://fishfraud.blogspot.com/p/about-fishfraud.html http://fishfraud.blogspot.com/2010/11/projectweddingcom-revi... http://fishfraud.blogspot.com/2010/11/warning-to-national-me... http://fishfraud.blogspot.com/2010/11/steven-frischling-in-c... http://fishfraud.blogspot.com/2010/11/yelpcom-reviews-in-all...
I've checked the news articles, and it seems like the guy was indeed arrested for forgery and fraud, and ended up in a pre-trial diversion program for first-time offenders.
I had just assumed that this guy was just writing down what officials told him, but if 1/10th of the allegations on the blog are true, then maybe he just made up all of his supposed statements.
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#80How I hate these stenographer-to-the-powerful articles. The guy makes his money as a consultant to airlines; he here gives the official side of things under cover of perfect anonymity and official deniability. He does it while pretending to be a neutral arbiter of fact, showing no skepticism at all about official claims. And, naturally, he doesn't bother to follow up with the author of the blog post he responded to.…
FTA (the first paragraph, actually):
I was initially approached by his supporters, and put in touch with him, to help spread his story … however … once I began researching the story, his detailed blog post began to unravel.
Unless you mean that he should have shared with Aditya Mukerjee his article/accusations/assumptions/whatever and allowed him to respond to or rebut it prior to publishing it.