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Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

#71

I don't doubt that Yahoo has a shit load of traffic still, but unless Alexa/Quantcast/ComScore/Compete/Nielsen or any of these other so-called 'web traffic measurement services' have direct access to Yahoo and Google's traffic data (they don't), I'd take these all with a grain of salt. These services have never been accurate. http://moz.com/blog/testing-accuracy-visitor-data-alexa-comp...

If anything I think we should read this as "Users with a browser toolbar installed are more likely to use yahoo"

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

#73
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well that's a very simple problem to fix, the "-" operator still works, so you can exclude stackoverflow easily, or use the "site:" operator to force the result to come from apple. You can even setup those parameters as custom search engines in Chrome so you don't have to repeat yourself every time.

True, although I think this is something that I shouldn't have to manually specify.

How would you propose they should differentiate?

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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post #48

I believe it. I love the Yahoo homepage. And when I'm with a group and someone mentioned something obscure... just about everyone mutters - "oh yeah, I saw that on Yahoo." Keep in mind, these are not a geeky bunch, I'm the only redditor among them. We're talking about people who use their phones for everything and the computer to browse the web or answer an email.

Where do you live?

I just went to Yahoo.com. I believe this is my first time. The frontpage articles are "Jennifer Aniston's vacation bikini", "Bizarre Russian beach scene", "Horned sea monster is a mystery", "Forgot something, Lindsay?", and "Tycoons giving wealth away."

And that's the last time I go to yahoo.com

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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post #48

I believe it. I love the Yahoo homepage. And when I'm with a group and someone mentioned something obscure... just about everyone mutters - "oh yeah, I saw that on Yahoo." Keep in mind, these are not a geeky bunch, I'm the only redditor among them. We're talking about people who use their phones for everything and the computer to browse the web or answer an email.

I don't use Yahoo, but I do like that the site is useful for casual information junkies. There's a very pleasant inundation of news in various media that you don't get from sources like google news or newspaper sites.

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

#76

I "Google" less and less for search results, as they become increasingly crap. They are mostly best for "big name" items; also, the prominence of StackOverflow means that some computer technology queries still work pretty well. These days, I'm fortunate when I know specifically enough what I want that I can jump straight into Wikipedia and hopefully find an adequate page. Whatever you are and aren't doing about it, G…

Google engineer here. We run experiments that show ranking improvements before launching changes to how we interpret query words. I would guess that for every time you notice Google "ignoring the word you asked for," there were several times where we got you the right result even though it didn't have the exact words you asked for, and you didn't even notice. We're not perfect but we're always working on improvements…

Do you guys dogfood your programming search questions or do you have an internal thing for that? Because honestly when I google technical stuff and get corrected despite using "" (since now '+' is deprecated) it makes me super rage. The only thing that escapes it is the super.crazy.java.conventions that are obvious.

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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post #74
post #48

I believe it. I love the Yahoo homepage. And when I'm with a group and someone mentioned something obscure... just about everyone mutters - "oh yeah, I saw that on Yahoo." Keep in mind, these are not a geeky bunch, I'm the only redditor among them. We're talking about people who use their phones for everything and the computer to browse the web or answer an email.

Where do you live? I just went to Yahoo.com. I believe this is my first time. The frontpage articles are "Jennifer Aniston's vacation bikini", "Bizarre Russian beach scene", "Horned sea monster is a mystery", "Forgot something, Lindsay?", and "Tycoons giving wealth away." And that's the last time I go to yahoo.com

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Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

#78

I think one of the reasons is that Yahoo announced that program to recirculate mail ids, and people have been visiting their long forgotten mailboxes to make sure they don't get closed.

That was my conclusion as well. I visited yahoo for the first time in years to reaffirm my account name (and hopefully grab some other ones).

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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post #50

I "Google" less and less for search results, as they become increasingly crap. They are mostly best for "big name" items; also, the prominence of StackOverflow means that some computer technology queries still work pretty well. These days, I'm fortunate when I know specifically enough what I want that I can jump straight into Wikipedia and hopefully find an adequate page. Whatever you are and aren't doing about it, G…

Very true, glad I'm not the only one to have noticed this. And I've got a suggestion for a search engine so intelligent - well relatively - it took google back to school and enrolled it in kindergarten. I find myself using it whenever Google gets stumped; it consistently gives better results in the sense that I feel it has a better understanding of my query. Take this example that prompted my above semi-hyperbole. Ba…

http://www.bing.com/search?setmkt=en-US&q=%2Binsect+with+a+b...

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, although I think this is something that I shouldn't have to manually specify.

How would you propose they should differentiate?

Interesting question. One possibility is a heuristic to determine whether the user is looking for a broad overview or trying to solve a specific problem. For example, "2d arrays in Objective C" should bring up a doc page or a tutorial page that provides an overview of the concept; but "How to initialize a 2D array in Objective C" could provide an SO page where someone has asked exactly that. In general, the narrower the query, the more likely it should be that a forum or other UGC site will provide a better answer than an overview page, because someone else has likely run into the problem before.
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