Blink tag removed from Firefox • Hacker News Board

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by pbhjpbhj » Wed, Aug 07, 2013, 8:42 AM UTC

plorkyeran wrote: post #16

Natsu wrote: post #6

This one might be a bit more important.... "Enable JavaScript" preference checkbox has been removed and user-set values will be reset to the default

NoScript continues to work fine and is much more functional than globally turning off JS. Anyone who intentionally turned off JS via the Firefox options will probably benefit from being forced to use NoScript instead anyway.

Personally I've set - for as long as I recall - the javascript options in the submenu all off. I don't see why a page should be able to move windows or change default menus. I'm assuming these options are being removed from the GUI too. What are the defaults (they're not mentioned on the OP's page).

NoScript doesn't appear to have these fine tuning options?

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by skeletonjelly » Wed, Aug 07, 2013, 8:44 AM UTC

pamelafox wrote: post #26

Aww, man. I love using (in FF) and (in Chrome) when giving presentations, they're such crowd pleasers. At least Chrome still has , I used it in a talk just 2 days ago. Hope they don't follow FF's lead.

Marquee caused a whole bunch of CSS errors in a website I delivered. Client found out you could run code via onscroll, and the CMS I used (DNN) didn't filter it out. Ugh!

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by skeletonjelly » Wed, Aug 07, 2013, 8:45 AM UTC

proexploit wrote: post #44

statictype wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are still use-cases where using is the cleanest way to achieve something without resorting to javascript (or a soup tag).

Like what? I buy the use case of using a table for data, but are you implying there's other scenarios where using table elements are the best choice?

Vertically centering floating content is a PITA without this dirty, dirty hack :)

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by mattwritescode » Wed, Aug 07, 2013, 8:46 AM UTC

Well, geocities will never look the same again.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by Bockit » Wed, Aug 07, 2013, 8:50 AM UTC

jacobr wrote: post #64

mcpherrinm wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gecko was, afaik, the last major browser engine that supported . Chrome and IE don't, at least. Opera won't, after switching to, ironically enough, the engine called Blink. So it's not exactly the same as removing : Other browsers already didn't support it.

Oddly enough Chrome/Blink still has the String.prototype.blink method to create a blink tag from a string. If I recall correctly it's actually part of an ES (not DOM) standard.

Wow. Because this surprised me so much, I just found out that if you open up a node REPL and type 'hello'.blink() you get 'Hello' returned. So I guess it's an ES thing and it boggles my mind.

I was trying to find the ES standard where it's specified but I'll settle for this[1] instead. Interestingly enough you have quite a few HTML wrapping functions as part of the spec.

[1]: http://javascript.spec.whatwg.org/#string.prototype.blink

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by mcpoulet » Wed, Aug 07, 2013, 8:53 AM UTC

I love the fact that in the release notes page, they used a tag around the message "Dropped blink effect from text-decoration: blink; and completely removed element".

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by morkbot » Wed, Aug 07, 2013, 9:03 AM UTC

Also worth noting: "New feature in toolbox: Network Monitor".

The lack of it was the last thing that was keeping me using Firebug.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by lrem » Wed, Aug 07, 2013, 9:06 AM UTC

Don't worry, we still have the Web 2.1 version:

http://cheese.blartwendo.com/web21-demo.html

;)

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by InclinedPlane » Wed, Aug 07, 2013, 9:17 AM UTC

mcav wrote: post #21

All snark aside, I wonder what the rationale was for doing this. It'd be a shame to load a website in a browser 20 years from now, only to see the site render incorrectly due to no-longer-implemented tags. Next, ? It's tough, obviously, because we can't have cruft build up all over. But this seems like a fairly straightforward case that a browser could shim out in JavaScript by default. Blink is a pretty straightforw…

The tag has been deprecated for 13 years.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by InclinedPlane » Wed, Aug 07, 2013, 9:19 AM UTC

panhandlr wrote: post #24

Natsu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, they're trying to remove the settings that people set to goof up their browsers from the look of this. There's this one, too: "Load images automatically" and Always show the tab bar" checkboxes removed from preferences and reset to defaults

Let this day go down in history as the day we declared our independence from the tyrannical Mozilla organization and their corporate-interest driven and oppressive removal of our freedoms and ability to customize our browser. We shall not be stricken down by their restrictive and non-representational releases of firefox... instead we choose to be empowered by the option to disable things such as javascript, and tabbe…

Are you being serious or is this supposed to be a joke?