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Post by andrewcooke »

pushkargaikwad wrote: post #44

>> Is there anything I can do to save my SaaS startup? Don't you think you have bigger things to worry about then your SaaS company ? I meant, you are about to lose your freedom which I feels should be your first priority. I really feels to have a stronger case and to preserve your freedom, you should come out open with your name. International pressure and media do work as in Deborah Dalelv's case http://www.huffing…

financial security is freedom in a very real sense - see the work by amartya sen et al.

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Post by jnardiello »

To reply to your question: Hire someone or sell the business. This is pretty much everything you can do. Leaving the country is actually an option but might be quite dangerous depending on your current location.

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Post by 6d0debc071 »

regularguy wrote: post #54
easytiger wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the link but that is in no way offensive

I think if you make (negative) comments on religion, sexuality and race, you are bound to offend some people. Maybe it's a matter of opinion. But if he made an unsightly comment to the gay community at the gay parade, he will probably be deemed offensive too.

Unless it was really violently hateful, he'd probably be deemed a bit immature. But being immature's hardly a hanging offence.

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Post by davidchua »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #48
regularguy wrote: post #34

I'm assuming you are this guy: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/18/alvin-and-vivian-ja... What you did was quite offensive, for Muslims and non-Muslims. If you are that person, it may difficult to find someone you can trust enough to take over the SaaS startup whilst you are away. Good luck.

I don't know why you would just assume that, but considering this: > Sex bloggers Alvin Tan and Vivian Lee have been charged and imprisoned without bail It clearly isn't him

I think it is him:

They are out of bail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXw4qTp2GWQ

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Post by moubarak »

if anyone here helped you it would be a real shame for HN. if you did offend another religion and rightly convicted then you should pay the price of your apathy and recklessness. jail should not be the price you have to pay, but instead you she be outcast by the community, at least on HN.

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Post by pavlov »

regularguy wrote: post #54
easytiger wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the link but that is in no way offensive

I think if you make (negative) comments on religion, sexuality and race, you are bound to offend some people. Maybe it's a matter of opinion. But if he made an unsightly comment to the gay community at the gay parade, he will probably be deemed offensive too.

Huh. What do you think would be the gay parade equivalent of the pork-eating image?

Maybe a picture of a naked woman with the caption "I'm a heterosexual male, pussy is great, sucks to be you."

Mildly offensive, I guess, if you're extremely sensitive about your sexuality. Do you think someone should go to jail for displaying such an image during a gay parade?

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Post by dhanush »

I think you should get in touch with avaaz.org They have an influence on such issues. They will get their members to sign up in you support, create international awareness on this issue and then generate massive awareness regarding the situation. Not only will this buy you more time, it will also boosts up your chances significantly.

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Post by mnazim »

"posted religiously-insensitive photograph" is a very vague statement. Many questions come to mind.

- What is the nature of photographs?

- Were you exposing some kind the truth and got caught up by legal loopholes or an inherently unjust law in your country?

- Did you knowingly break a law which has existed in your country for a long time?

- Does the nature of your photographs insults someone's faith and or religion directly, knowingly, or purposefully? Or was it so subtle that you could have done it unknowingly?

- Could your postings promote hatred and/or violence against a specific group of people in the society?

- Is you SaaS startup related to the exposure of photographs? Were your postings directly as a results of your startup?

Many more questions can be raised and I think not many can help you without a clear understanding of the issue. At the very least anyone who might want to jump in to help would at least want to clearly understand the connection between your legal issues and your startup.

That said, without clear understanding of what you actually did, I have no right to assume who among the parties involved is right and who is wrong.

If you are willing and if it's possible without putting you in more trouble than you already have on your hands, please share a few more details about the issue. You would be surprised how much help communities like HN can provide you, given proper details.

PS. If legal precedence from authentic Islamic history is accepted in the courts in your country(which should be). Feel free to get in touch with me privately and I will do my best to help you find authentic Islamic precedence that might help you in your case - but of course, only if you are comfortable with it.

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Post by icebraining »

pushkargaikwad wrote: post #44

>> Is there anything I can do to save my SaaS startup? Don't you think you have bigger things to worry about then your SaaS company ? I meant, you are about to lose your freedom which I feels should be your first priority. I really feels to have a stronger case and to preserve your freedom, you should come out open with your name. International pressure and media do work as in Deborah Dalelv's case http://www.huffing…

Deborah Dalelv is a Norwegian citizen, though.

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Post by jacquesm »

moubarak wrote: post #75

if anyone here helped you it would be a real shame for HN. if you did offend another religion and rightly convicted then you should pay the price of your apathy and recklessness. jail should not be the price you have to pay, but instead you she be outcast by the community, at least on HN.

Right, because offending a religion is reason enough to become an outcast. What is this, the digital dark ages? Religion should be a force to unite people in something positive, not a way for a bunch of sub-groups to tell others how to live their lives.

Offense is in the eye of the beholder, what offends me is that there are people that would jail others based on insulting religions. And I say that as an atheist, my choice on that front already offends some religious people, go figure.

If you subscribe to a religion then you should live by its rules, those rules should not be part of the rules that run a country but they should allow the religious community to determine who is part of the 'in-group' and who is not.

And they should leave everybody else alone.

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