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Yahoo's Fight for its Users Earns the Company Special Recognition by EFF

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Re: Yahoo's Fight for its Users Earns the Company Special Recognition by EFF

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Only in 2005, Yahoo helped the Chinese regime prosecute a journalist. That wasn't the only time that happened, either. (Source: NYT - http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/business/worldbusiness/07i... )

Yahoo! responded to being put in this situation by, among other things, funding a fellowship at Georgetown (and Stanford I think) for a researcher and 2 students to study human rights issues and communications policy related to the internet: http://isd.georgetown.edu/programs/yahoofellow/

Re: Yahoo's Fight for its Users Earns the Company Special Recognition by EFF

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Protect America Act?

US legislation often seems to have titles like that - 'America Invents Act' or 'Stop Online Piracy Act'. Legislation here in the UK has much more prosaic, factual titles, like the "Apprenticeships and Skills (Public Procurement Contracts) Bill".

So do US laws. If you actually read the Bill it usually has a factual and direct title and then the second line will be "Also known as the Bunnies Are Cute Act."

Re: Yahoo's Fight for its Users Earns the Company Special Recognition by EFF

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I think Marissa has recently did a lot of changes to improve Yahoo.

She seems to be good at getting nerds talking about Yahoo. I don't think I was ever in the target market for any of their products, and I almost forgot the company existed, until the recent controversy about the ban on remote working.

I use yahoo for groups (nearly every item of old hardware has a yahoo group[0]) and for auctions on japanese electronics, as ebay never really caught on in japan. I get good use out of yahoo finance aswell.

[0] hyperbole

Re: Yahoo's Fight for its Users Earns the Company Special Recognition by EFF

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Uh what do you have against remote working that you're switching to Yahoo just cause they banned it?

I understood that to mean he'd forgotten about the company until the remote-working ban controversy brought it back into the spotlight, not that he's boycotting Yahoo on the basis of its remote-working policy

Correct. (I have no strong opinion for/against remote working.)

Re: Yahoo's Fight for its Users Earns the Company Special Recognition by EFF

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I have hated yahoo because of their poor products, bad user experience, ridiculous design sense, and what appears to be just brand marketing for a brand's sake. However, I have to say this news gives me a strong reason to reevaluate yahoo. And my own feelings about this makes it clear to me there is a market in customers who are interested in having their rights respected. I'm looking forward to the new wave of stron…

Dunno what your criticisms are about. I've used yahoo, specifically the email for something like 15 years. In all that time, I have had less trouble than any other site. For example, using gmail as an evaluation has caused me more grief in a short space of time than yahoo mail over it's life time. Like much of this sort of thing, I think its brand hating for the hates's sake. I have never "liked" yahoo or been a "fan…

I'm not hating brand in the abstract. I've had specific technical, aesthetic and business issues with Yahoo throughout it's entire existence.

Technically I've had a lot of trouble with Yahoo mail, and those types of problems have been typical for me with every service of theirs I've ever tried in the past.

For example, I often have trouble emailing people who have yahoo accounts due to bizarre spam filtering policies, some of which have no resolution path. I also have a Yahoo email account, and my mail client complains almost daily that it can't connect or my password is wrong.

It's just my personal taste but aesthetically, I can't tolerate their interface design. I'd be willing to bet Godaddy recruited their web designers from Yahoo.

I started noticing them as a 'brand only' company when I was in Japan in 2003. A local telecom was marketing a Yahoo branded DSL services. I suppose they where trying an AOL play (at least they had a focused business goal, and they've updated their design sense this century), but the combination of all this product noise (i.e. unrelated service offerings), combined with bad UX make the Yahoo brand ephemeral to me. Other then an email service, for the life of me, I can't put my finger on what they do. Crawl around the web and put a yahoo sticker on anything they think is cool?

Now however, maybe their brand can start to represent something I care about, but they'll have to actually do some useful things too.

And then there's this: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/email_address

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