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My NSA Records - Submit a FOIA Request or Motion to Quash

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Re: My NSA Records - Submit a FOIA Request or Motion to Quash

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Post by tsaoutourpants »

alanh wrote: post #64
tsaoutourpants wrote: post #28

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Thanks for sharing it! If you have any ideas for how to make it seem less sketchy while still conveying that we're going to send a free request for you, let me know!

Well, the big question for me was, “Why would anyone expect either of these options ever actually work?” and your site does not seem to address this fundamental question. There are a few little things, too, like the ASCII arrow "bullets" and cheap-feeling graphics, that just make it seem less trustworthy. Contact me if you’d like me to donate a wee bit of time to upgrade your look & feel.

There's a "Why is this important?" link on every page that addresses your question.

If youd like to make graphics to improve the design, I'd be happy to put them up! jon [at] professional-troublemaker.com

Re: My NSA Records - Submit a FOIA Request or Motion to Quash

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Post by tsaoutourpants »

genwin wrote: post #70
tsaoutourpants wrote: post #28

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Thanks for sharing it! If you have any ideas for how to make it seem less sketchy while still conveying that we're going to send a free request for you, let me know!

Ask for people to tell you if they actually get some good info back. If it happens then put notice of that here on HN. Then I'd be interested.

Why not be interested now, rather than months from now when responses come? It takes about 30 seconds to fill out a request, and it's free.

Re: My NSA Records - Submit a FOIA Request or Motion to Quash

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Post by taftster »

genwin wrote: post #69
chris_mahan wrote: post #40

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You'd have to prove that it was you talking on the phone. You'd need a recording of the conversation for the judge to be sure.

Presumably the NSA knows his location during the bank robbery, via his cell phone data. He needn't have been talking on the phone at the time. If his location was miles away then he should be off the hook.

Assuming he didn't leave it with his cousin Cletus who placed the phone call instead. NSA metadata does not help the accused in any way.

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Post by LoganCale »

ctdonath wrote: post #27
JDGM wrote: post #6

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"...the agency can charge for the time it takes to search for records and for duplication of those records" In the spirit of absurdist satirical works such as Brazil locally relevant in light of recent events, here's an immediate lunatic conspiracy theory: This whole Snowden leak business is an elaborate and wholly orchestrated "make work" scheme to boost the economy by flooding "the agency" with requests for records…

Considering that everything alleged has been announced, confirmed, discussed, and documented for years past (Patriot Act, ECHLON, hoovering all international communications, etc.) I'm wondering why all this, now, is garnering such outrage. The idea's time, I suppose...

There's been outrage in the past, but it's generally been limited to the tech community and didn't last long because it dropped out of the news quickly. This time the government openly acknowledged the mass collection of everyone's phone records without probable cause, and continued media coverage has allowed it to build momentum. I think many people have been very upset about it for a long time, but everyone else seemed to show apathy so they did too, because if no one else seems upset, it's hard to feel like anything can ever get done about it. When everyone is angry, there's more chance of getting something done.

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Post by GoodIntentions »

iamdave wrote: post #63
dsl wrote: post #26

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If you are not American, our laws apply to you, but not our rights. So you are out of luck if you want to file a FOIA.

If you are not American, our laws apply to you Huh?? Even if someone is physically not in the US? Have I misunderstood something for a very long time?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Emery

There are other examples. This is the one that came to mind most readily. I don't smoke up. I don't support Marc Emery. I was however, ashamed at how nut-less my government was in handing him over.

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Post by genwin »

taftster wrote: post #74
genwin wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably the NSA knows his location during the bank robbery, via his cell phone data. He needn't have been talking on the phone at the time. If his location was miles away then he should be off the hook.

Assuming he didn't leave it with his cousin Cletus who placed the phone call instead. NSA metadata does not help the accused in any way.

It would be a piece of evidence to counter the prosecution's evidence against him. If his DNA is on the money, it won't help much. But if the prosecution has no hard evidence, it could form reasonable doubt of guilt.

Re: My NSA Records - Submit a FOIA Request or Motion to Quash

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Post by dsl »

dsl wrote: post #26
alan_cx wrote: post #5

Only Americans? Or can the rest of us yet to be proven not terrorists apply too?

If you are not American, our laws apply to you, but not our rights. So you are out of luck if you want to file a FOIA.

Replying to myself here...

Not sure why this is getting down voted, it isn't hard to understand or show evidence of. You may not agree with it, but it is fact. For example a Columbian drug lord can break American laws without ever stepping foot on US soil. A hacker in China can violate wiretapping laws. The sovereignty of other nations has given way to extradition, extraordinary rendition, or even drone strikes.

Re: My NSA Records - Submit a FOIA Request or Motion to Quash

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Post by grey-area »

alanh wrote: post #65
grey-area wrote: post #50

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Try something like this perhaps: Retrieve .button { font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; text-decoration:none; color:#fff; background-color:green; margin:1em; padding:0.5em 1em; font-size:2em; text-transform:uppercase; letter-spacing:0.1em; } http://jsfiddle.net/zdYbM/

Does feel more modern, but much less clickable. IMO, slight faux 3D effects are still quite helpful on the web

Easy enough to add shadows etc with CSS if you like them, but I do think anything (even just text) would be better than the current buttons - at present they make the site look pretty dodgy and home-made - strange how styling can affect our trust.

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Post by dbecker »

tsaoutourpants wrote: post #49

Before I put up MyNSARecords, I was curious as to whether more people would want a copy or want them deleted. Thought you might find it interesting: the "want a copy" crowd outnumbers the "delete" crowd by about 4 to 1.

I'd like to see more my whole file instead of just the phone records, because I'm curious how accurate their information is.
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