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Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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OK, now I've got a pretty solid IE test setup, how do I go about testing Mac browsers (eg Safari) without a Mac? AFAIK the Mac OS X license says it can't be virtualized under non-Mac hardware. It looks like the only options are to use remote testing services, buy Apple hardware or illegally use Mac on a non-Mac host.

Yep, it would really be great if there was something similar to this for Safari on OSX.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Sure you can. They have 10.8 VMs for VMWare Workstation. I'd recommend at least 8gb of RAM for smoother access though.

I don't know OSX versions, is that a recent one? More important, can I get the most recent versions of browsers? (Safari,Chrome,FireFox)

10.9 was just announced last week at WWDC.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

#73
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Although they come from Microsoft, I don't feel enormously comfortable doing this: chmod +x LinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx; ./LinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx

I was assuming the built-in NSA access was making people uncomfortable. ;)

Why not be comfortable with it? Unless, of course, you are one of those who have something to hide. ;-)

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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LinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx LinuxVirtualBox.part2.rar LinuxVirtualBox.part3.rar LinuxVirtualBox.part4.rar LinuxVirtualBox.part5.rar Why? Why the proprietary rar format? I mean, is there any reason to actually use rar over even "only" xz nowadays or for big downloads, zpaq (lrzip is probably not mainstream enough I guess)? And 1000 megabyte parts? Why?

> Why? Why the proprietary rar format?

They want all the assurances that come from software with a corporate face attached to it. They wouldn't subject their users to software made by amateur hobbyists.

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Hi Tmmrn. I work on the team that made these available. We originally had these as >3Gb single files and had many requests to reduce the file sizes from people who had failed transfers. It also helps when using sneaker net to setup test environments that are isolated and you need USB sticks to move bits around. We went with RAR because: * It's available on all platforms * No client or 3rd party software needed to ext…

Alternatively, this is a perfect use case for a torrent. It always boggles the mind how the big players seem to be avoiding this download scheme like the plague even though it's unrivalled for these kinds of downloads, especially when there's a rush on the files like you'll no doubt notice in the next 10 days or so.

Most corporations block torrents. I would get roasted alive if I installed bittorrent at work.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Which competitors don't? The only competitor that comes to mind is Apple and they don't block this either -- though I believe they were the last holdout. Nor does Google, in any capacity, with Android or ChromeOS. Edit: I am dead wrong . Apple only permits the virtualization of OS X on Apple hardware, per the EULA. It does not permit the virtualization of OS X on non-Apple hardware. http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/doc…

You still can't run OS X on non-Apple hardware can you? I'd love it if they changed that.

No you cannot. They relaxed the EULA to allow virtualization of Mac OS from a Mac OS host, however. You can also use the same licensed copy that acts as the host.

The EULA revision came along with 10.8. Prior to that you could virtualize 10.7 Server, but once again, only with Mac OS as the host, and only with another licensed copy.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

#77

How does this compare to what you get when you run the ievms script? https://github.com/xdissent/ievms

I'm pretty sure they are sourced from the same VM's.

The only notable difference is that ievms converts (or did when I tried it last) from the VirtualPC copy - MS is now allowing these for download in other formats (Parallels/VMWare/Virtualbox) without needing to convert.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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And why bother splitting up large files when most clients can resume partial HTTP requests?

Well... Fat32 FSs don't support files > 2GB But yeah, it's silly.

Somehow, I imagine they are not hosting these off FAT32 filesystems.

Maybe it's IIS that isn't very good with partial HTTP requests... ;-)

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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post #11

LinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx LinuxVirtualBox.part2.rar LinuxVirtualBox.part3.rar LinuxVirtualBox.part4.rar LinuxVirtualBox.part5.rar Why? Why the proprietary rar format? I mean, is there any reason to actually use rar over even "only" xz nowadays or for big downloads, zpaq (lrzip is probably not mainstream enough I guess)? And 1000 megabyte parts? Why?

Hi Tmmrn. I work on the team that made these available. We originally had these as >3Gb single files and had many requests to reduce the file sizes from people who had failed transfers. It also helps when using sneaker net to setup test environments that are isolated and you need USB sticks to move bits around. We went with RAR because: * It's available on all platforms * No client or 3rd party software needed to ext…

Glad you are here. Thank you so much for doing this. Just wanted to let you know that I found out about this via a twitter sponsored tweet. So whoever decided to do that as a marketing idea probably is getting their money's worth.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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post #75

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Alternatively, this is a perfect use case for a torrent. It always boggles the mind how the big players seem to be avoiding this download scheme like the plague even though it's unrivalled for these kinds of downloads, especially when there's a rush on the files like you'll no doubt notice in the next 10 days or so.

Most corporations block torrents. I would get roasted alive if I installed bittorrent at work.

Most large corporations, but for the freelancers and folks working for small business, a .torrent would be a godsend as an option. Especially if done with something like S3's torrent support, which lets Amazon function as the always-there seeder.
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