There's even an easy way to explore your own (and others') snapchat graph: http://snapgraph.me/
Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake
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Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your counter argument to verizon call list is: what if a black guy is calling the KKK? Not that I'm pro verizon, just that is a very poor example.
I think he was trying to grab an example that would be easy to jump to conclusions about (calls to the KKK)
It's a poor example. If I were black, I'd be pretty unconcerned about the possibility of my friends and family thinking I'm a Klansman, no matter what my phone records say.
Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I'm not necessarily making a moral judgement on Snapchat but I do think it is something to consider. You can see the same mentality around Chatroulette. I realize the value of something is not concrete at first; Twitter comes to mind. I think we all agree that Twitter plays an important role in society today, yet that was unclear a few years ago. I tend to assign the values the other way around; Snapchat seems like…
Interesting points. I agree that "fun" is a valuable thing, or can be anyways. Twitter isn't perfect but one thing if does is to give a voice to those who didn't have one before. I'm thinking specifically of oppressive governments and the affected citizens or folks being harassed by law enforcement. I hope that benefit outweighs the media's misuse of it.
>Twitter isn't perfect but one thing if does is to give a voice to those who didn't have one before. I'm thinking specifically of oppressive governments and the affected citizens or folks being harassed by law enforcement.
Does it really help with that? I'd think for anything important you'd want to spend more than 160 characters explaining it; long-form blogs and tumblr seem like a more effective way to spread such stories. E.g. the report of events in Turkey that was on HN a couple of days ago was fascinating, and I suspect quite influential - and I don't think it would've been anywhere near as effective as a tweet.
Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure there are useful scenarios like yours. But that alone doesn't magically make the app have a net positive impact. I'm not claiming it is positive or negative but rather something to consider. The comment about email isn't really logical. Crow bars help you kill people but that doesn't mean we should treat them the same way as guns. I'm sure there is a technical term for it (logical fallacy) but that's besides…
The comment about email isn't really logical. Crow bars help you kill people but that doesn't mean we should treat them the same way as guns. I'm sure there is a technical term for it (logical fallacy) but that's besides my point and I'm on mobile :). This is exactly my point.
>> This is exactly my point.
Not sure I follow. Are you saying that "crow bars kill people too, so we shouldn't have legislation for guns that don't also apply to crow bars?"
If so, we probably disagree fundamentally on debates - which is fine but an important point.
Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake
#75This has been circulating in my mind for some time now. It seems to me that Silicon Valley is so obsessed with "home run" start ups that we've lost track of caring if they make our lives better. I'm not necessarily making a moral judgement on Snapchat but I do think it is something to consider. You can see the same mentality around Chatroulette. I realize the value of something is not concrete at first; Twitter comes…
> As a society, are we rallying behind an app that helps people engage in extramarital affairs as this post suggests? Without getting into morality, don't we agree that affairs impact not just the two participants but the families surrounding them? I think that line of reasoning is projecting far too much onto a photo sharing service. I use it to share silly photos with friends. Just because someone else uses it to c…
Yeah. I'm not making any moral judgements or conclusions. Just stating an observation. I definitely don't think Snapchat in and of itself is immoral. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't consider the net effects of the app.
It could be that Snapchat is terribly useful.
Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
You've been brainwashed. The best option for consumers is for it to be free, with no ads.
No, it's not. That ends with no service existing at all. Money has to come from somewhere for the service.
Does this really need to be a centralized service though?
Isn't this the sort of thing that could be implemented as a peer-to-peer networking service?
Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake
#77This has been circulating in my mind for some time now. It seems to me that Silicon Valley is so obsessed with "home run" start ups that we've lost track of caring if they make our lives better. I'm not necessarily making a moral judgement on Snapchat but I do think it is something to consider. You can see the same mentality around Chatroulette. I realize the value of something is not concrete at first; Twitter comes…
Both Facebook and Snapchat were created by students in college to suddenly explode in popularity. I'm definitely not a Mark Zuckerberg fan, but imagine one of your hobby projects suddenly turning into this phenomenon, when you probably just created it for a certain social circle. I think we should cut "incidental start-ups" some slack for a while, but Snapchat definitely need to do something about their privacy, espe…
> I think we should cut "incidental start-ups" some slack for a while
Agree. I'm just not sure we're taking the "effect" of a start up into consideration when we put them up on pedestals.
Perhaps there isn't interest in the "effect", which is what I was alluding to.
Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake
#78This has been circulating in my mind for some time now. It seems to me that Silicon Valley is so obsessed with "home run" start ups that we've lost track of caring if they make our lives better. I'm not necessarily making a moral judgement on Snapchat but I do think it is something to consider. You can see the same mentality around Chatroulette. I realize the value of something is not concrete at first; Twitter comes…
"I think we all agree that Twitter plays an important role in society today" Uh, how does Twitter play an important role in society?
Subjective, I guess. But many movements in countries with oppressive regimes use Twitter heavily to spread information.
Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake
#79Today lots of posts on privacy... To those saying that if you have nothing to hide you should not have a problem with this, you are missing some points, and situations... For example, sometimes you do things that are controversial, but not necessarily wrong, or "sketchy", and you don't want the negative attention. For example, regarding the Verizon call list: What if people discover you have made lots of calls to KKK…
What if people discover you have made lots of calls to KKK? They will quickly jump to conclusion that you are probably a neo-nazi, but maybe you was like that black guy that made a KKK documentary
The thing is, Verizon isn't handing over identities. This isn't to absolve Verizon here at all, but to illustrate that the US Government can't find terrorists this way.
Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
The comment about email isn't really logical. Crow bars help you kill people but that doesn't mean we should treat them the same way as guns. I'm sure there is a technical term for it (logical fallacy) but that's besides my point and I'm on mobile :). This is exactly my point.
>> This is exactly my point. Not sure I follow. Are you saying that "crow bars kill people too, so we shouldn't have legislation for guns that don't also apply to crow bars?" If so, we probably disagree fundamentally on debates - which is fine but an important point.
My point is that SnapChat is a crowbar, not a gun. A lot of talk about SnapChat revolves around affairs and sexting because that gets more page views, but there's really no proof that people are using it primarily for amoral reasons. The totality of people I know use it just for goofy temporal messages (and, yeah, occasional sexts to their S.O., but nothing they wouldn't otherwise do via SMS)