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Re: 3D Printer for less than $400

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I stopped watching when I realised this printer is "cloud based" and "connects wirelessly to their servers". You know what? Call me when it can connect wirelessly to my computer, just as my 2D printer does right now.

It can - see the FAQ right at the bottom. "We have a backup WiFi printing mode similar to Octoprint..."

"backup mode"? That really seems to imply the main way to print is to send everything through your servers.

Re: 3D Printer for less than $400

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I've found that the more over-funded a Kickstarter project is, the higher the probability that delivery of perks and products will be delayed or have problems. In my experience over the past two years, I've seen a number of projects that I funded where the project creators got bogged down after deciding to add features not originally specified at the time of funding, or continually "tweak" features that then result i…

This is of course part of the risk associated with Kickstarter, projects may fail or be delayed. As you seem to be an avid backer, do you feel satisfied with the general delivery of projects you backed?

Out of 56 projects backed over the past two years, so far, yes. Nobody has outright "taken the money and run" (yet), and even on the long-delayed projects, semi-regular updates kept people satisfied.

My biggest complaint is the lack of a better way to browse projects. There's no way to say "Show me all the projects in the Technology category that have not yet completed funding or are not over yet". I have to open up two tabs, one for Technology Staff Picks, and one for More in Technology, and browse through both of those to see what's currently active.

Re: 3D Printer for less than $400

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When it comes to consumer-grade 3D printing, it seems like all the focus on developing a cheap machine and none of the focus is on figuring out something that people actually want to print. So you can print a spoon and a bowl... great. But I actually already have one of those. If I ever have a need to print an endless supply of 1-inch square cubes, I guess 3D printing is just the ticket. I'm not saying they need to b…

Once cheap 3D printer are capable of producing reasonable quality at decent resolution, I see table-top gamers being a key demographic (and despite the competition from online gaming there is still a lot of that going on). Not only will it eventually be cheaper than the over-priced models from some outlets, they'll be able to create truly customised armies. It'll annoy the hell out of Games Workshop and their ilk.

Re: 3D Printer for less than $400

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"If you want to use your own filament, you may do so without the cartridges" GOOD! I dismiss other 3d printers immediately if they require some proprietary filament cartridge. Nice to see the price dropping on 3d printers. :-)

I would also dismiss those with proprietary software or "cloud" software if that's the only way to operate them.

It's a tad more sophisticated but they're trying to tie you in just as much.

I don't oppose if it's optional tho. It's a fair way to monetise. But if it's the only way to realistically operate your printer, then you've basically been duped.

Re: 3D Printer for less than $400

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It's clear Kickstarter has failed in trying to convince people that "Kickstarter is not a store". * "I would order this..." * "I wouldn't be interested in purchasing..." * "I often buy things [from Kickstarter] in the hundreds..." * "I have no intention of actually buying a printer..."

Well, Kickstarter is hosting mostly pre-order businesses.

This project for instance is just being advertised as a cheap alternative to things that already exist (claiming they don't would be a big stretch of the implementation details).

Kickstarter would lose most of its business by not allowing these kind of projects. People are more likely to bid in stuff they can easily figure out, rather than completely novel and seemingly far-fetched ideas.

Re: 3D Printer for less than $400

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Don't they only need to make one really good printer that can print other printers? That should bring margins down. Seriously though, as someone very interested in 3D printing this is awfully tempting to back. The best option for me though seems still to be to use a service that will allow you to send your model to a third party that will print it on a professional 3D printer and send it back to you. Internet + profe…

Most decent printers already do this, except for material constraints. You cannot print the electro-mechanic parts, and things like rods and belts can be printed but have sub-par performance that will lead to lesser precision (inadequate rigidity or flexibility).

But yeah, a fair share of my 3d printer was printed by its same model. And this indeed is why good 3d printers like the Prusas, Mendels, etc are getting cheaper (this and cheaper filament prices). These are printers that provide good precision and use parts that are mostly cheap to produce or directly printable by a similar printer.

Re: 3D Printer for less than $400

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I still wonder if 3D printing is going to be a one in every home thing or something more akin to copiers (copy centers, businesses, and some individuals)? I get the feeling the current direction to go would be more Xerox than Apple.

I think it will be like printers -- a bit of both. Not everyone has or needs a printer, and almost no-one owns an automatic book print/collate/binding machine.

A good, small, cheap 3d printer may become just about compulsory for anyone who, say, does home repairs, does any kind of professional design work, does arts and crafts, and so forth.

Re: 3D Printer for less than $400

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why can't you wash the items with soap?

Eating soap that doesn't get rinsed off is pretty bad for you top.

This doesn't really make any sense.

If the soap can go in, it can get out. If the soap can go in, it's going to kill the overwhelming majority of the microbes ensconced in whatever matrix the 3d printer material is built from.

This is a non-issue.

Now, if you want to talk about 3d printer material being toxic and leaching out of the material into your digestive system, well...I don't know enough to have an informed opinion.

FWIW, I know a fair amount about microbial adhesion to abiotic surfaces and I've worked with several people who are experts on microbial sensitivity to detergents.

Re: 3D Printer for less than $400

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eating soap that doesn't get rinsed off is pretty bad for you top.

This doesn't really make any sense. If the soap can go in, it can get out. If the soap can go in, it's going to kill the overwhelming majority of the microbes ensconced in whatever matrix the 3d printer material is built from. This is a non-issue. Now, if you want to talk about 3d printer material being toxic and leaching out of the material into your digestive system, well...I don't know enough to have an informed o…

I would agree that it's possible 3d plastic stuff could be cleaned, but people are really bad at cleaning out simple plastic water bottles. The space inside a 3d printed object is far more complicated.

Seriously, just use a metal fork. It's cheaper, durable, trivial to clean.

How many hours of effort is it worth to reuse a plastic fork? Should I spend hundreds on an autoclave to keep the 30 cents worth of plastic clean? I hope you would agree that's a stupid waste of time and money.

Yeah, leached toxins from the plastic are bad as well. if i were forced to bet, i'd say bacteria will get you before plastic toxins, because proper cleaning would be hard.

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