Every promising technology/company that gets gobbled up by the bureaucratic mega fauna enviably end up being re-chewed and strewn about as piles of dung (to be burned to repel mosquitoes). AOL's problem is that it's a corporation first, a product/service creating, maintaining and selling entity second. Oh sure, the execs may think they're "creating and maintaining" a product/service, but their mindset is "how do we m…
Another anecdote: ICQ was the very, or at least one of the first instant messaging applications, and acquired by AOL in the late 90s "for US$287 million in cash up front and $120 million in additional payments over three years" [1]. It was a huge story in Israel at the time. The company is still there, but I don't know a single person who still uses it today. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICQ
Winamp’s woes: how the greatest MP3 player undid itself (2012)
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Re: Winamp’s woes: how the greatest MP3 player undid itself (2012)
#72Today, two media players I like in Windows is: MusicBee ( http://getmusicbee.com/ , quite fast last time I tried) and MediaMonkey (previous versions where good, current versions became bloated).
Re: Winamp’s woes: how the greatest MP3 player undid itself (2012)
#73I guess I am the only person in the world still using Winamp. Just feels odd when I listen to mp3s and can't look up the ID3 tags with alt-3. And I never felt the need for a 'library', 'database' or huge spaceship cockpit UIs either.
> And I never felt the need for a 'library', 'database' or huge spaceship cockpit UIs either. Probably because you never experienced them. There are things "you feel the need for" (e.g water in a desert) and things you have to use for a while to say "fuck, how did I do without those?".
Re: Winamp’s woes: how the greatest MP3 player undid itself (2012)
#74Don't forget AVS (Advanced Visualization Studio). Good old software rendering, and programmable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tka07_LC534
Re: Winamp’s woes: how the greatest MP3 player undid itself (2012)
#75For those on Linux or Windows, Audacious is a beautiful audio player heavily inspired by Winamp 2.x, both visually and mechanically. It supports Winamp Classic skins out of the box, and comes with quite a nice one as stock. Screenshot: http://community.linuxmint.com/img/screenshots/audacious.png Homepage: http://audacious-media-player.org/
Re: Winamp’s woes: how the greatest MP3 player undid itself (2012)
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
If anyone is interested, see deadbeef for the linux equivalent of foobar2000: http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ (But personally, I use MOC: http://moc.daper.net/ )
How do these compare to VLC? Is VLC not actually a good audio player?
edit: I'm using WinAmp for my MP3s, but I might take a look at foobar2000 as well
Re: Winamp’s woes: how the greatest MP3 player undid itself (2012)
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just run foobar2k under Wine. It works pretty well.
It has been named in this thread before, but you might not have seen it. I used to run foobar under wine, but honestly, deadbeef[1] works better from an integration point of view (global shortcuts, GTK etc.). [1] http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/
Re: Winamp’s woes: how the greatest MP3 player undid itself (2012)
#78I use Winamp now but only because of its support for FLAC. I hate its UI, its far too messy and complicated with all kinds of windows that can be docked, undocked etc. Its unfortunate the developers have never understood the concept of "less is more".
Well, I don't want to sound like an evangelist, but foobar2000 plays FLAC just fine, with gapless playback and whatnot and the interface is quite the opposite of Winamp's.
Re: Winamp’s woes: how the greatest MP3 player undid itself (2012)
#79Every promising technology/company that gets gobbled up by the bureaucratic mega fauna enviably end up being re-chewed and strewn about as piles of dung (to be burned to repel mosquitoes). AOL's problem is that it's a corporation first, a product/service creating, maintaining and selling entity second. Oh sure, the execs may think they're "creating and maintaining" a product/service, but their mindset is "how do we m…
"AOL's problem is that it's a corporation first" Isn't its main problem today that it's a content farm operated by new-age antivax no-signal-to-noise peddler Arianna Huffington?
Of which I'm sure they were thinking how to make money off of first, not how the hell to increase quality afterwards. Kinda like what happened to Java after being inherited by Oracle when they bought Sun.
Re: Winamp’s woes: how the greatest MP3 player undid itself (2012)
#80Every promising technology/company that gets gobbled up by the bureaucratic mega fauna enviably end up being re-chewed and strewn about as piles of dung (to be burned to repel mosquitoes). AOL's problem is that it's a corporation first, a product/service creating, maintaining and selling entity second. Oh sure, the execs may think they're "creating and maintaining" a product/service, but their mindset is "how do we m…
Another anecdote: ICQ was the very, or at least one of the first instant messaging applications, and acquired by AOL in the late 90s "for US$287 million in cash up front and $120 million in additional payments over three years" [1]. It was a huge story in Israel at the time. The company is still there, but I don't know a single person who still uses it today. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICQ