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Re: “Right click and save as” needs to go away

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Post by alxeder »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #44
raverbashing wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is funny, because I absolutely loathe opening in the browser, I prefer saving it. Chrome and FF PDF viewers are better, but with Acrobat it was a bag of hurt. Also, see: saving is the more generic answer. Save and you can see it, open it and before the Chrome 'save' button you had to re-download it.

If Chrome didn't offer any way to 'save as' a PDF that it was displaying (really?!?), that's clearly Chrome's problem.

there are at least 3 ways to save an opened pdf with chromes viewer.

Re: “Right click and save as” needs to go away

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Post by gcr »

GhotiFish wrote: post #30
GavinB wrote: post #8

For everyone complaining that they don't want to be forced to download--just have two buttons: March Invoice: View - Download This is much clearer for the average user than a single link with hidden right click functionality. Currently clicking on a link you have no idea what you're going to get.

so would the browser be enforcing that? Or the server? Because both options are unacceptable.

Why are both unacceptable? Server enforcing downloading/viewing measn the user couldn't override its choice, but providing both links avoids that issue.

Re: “Right click and save as” needs to go away

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Post by jcampbell1 »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #13

There are already ways to force browsers to download using HTTP headers. The author says this is a "server-side solutions to front-end problem", okay. But anyways, when pages use this already, it OFTEN pisses me off, when I want to look at a PDF in browser, but the web app/page is forcing me to save it to disk and then re-open it in another app. What we _really_ need, that we _don't_ have a way to do right now -- is…

Content-Disposition attachement is one of the hardest things to implement when you have UTF-8 filenames. You have to browser sniff, and even then I have haven't found a good solution.

Does anyone know of a good resource that explains all the edge cases that must be handled?

Re: “Right click and save as” needs to go away

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Post by tripzilch »

tripzilch wrote: post #51
TillE wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Windows I've yet to see any PDF viewer that's faster or better than Sumatra. All the in-browser ones are a bit slow and lacking in features.

But it's so ... yellow .

I was kidding, jeez. I'm a big fan of SumatraPDF and use it everywhere I can.

However I have actually heard people complain about its yellowness when started without a document. I don't care Sumatra, keep it yellow.

Re: “Right click and save as” needs to go away

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Post by pseudonym »

tripzilch wrote: post #50
jrochkind1 wrote: post #13

There are already ways to force browsers to download using HTTP headers. The author says this is a "server-side solutions to front-end problem", okay. But anyways, when pages use this already, it OFTEN pisses me off, when I want to look at a PDF in browser, but the web app/page is forcing me to save it to disk and then re-open it in another app. What we _really_ need, that we _don't_ have a way to do right now -- is…

> when I want to look at a PDF in browser does that ever happen? > but the web app/page is forcing me to save it to disk and then re-open it in another app. because SumatraPDF actually loads faster than Adobe's browser plugin. Plus it's more secure, lacking all the weird scripting crud that shouldn't be in a document format anyway, smaller and open source. Only downside is that it can be really, really, really yellow…

>does that ever happen?

Every time I browse a site on an iDevice, yes.

Re: “Right click and save as” needs to go away

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Post by zanny »

TillE wrote: post #46
raverbashing wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is funny, because I absolutely loathe opening in the browser, I prefer saving it. Chrome and FF PDF viewers are better, but with Acrobat it was a bag of hurt. Also, see: saving is the more generic answer. Save and you can see it, open it and before the Chrome 'save' button you had to re-download it.

On Windows I've yet to see any PDF viewer that's faster or better than Sumatra. All the in-browser ones are a bit slow and lacking in features.

"Shug" I use Okular everywhere.

Re: “Right click and save as” needs to go away

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Post by cfj »

GavinB wrote: post #8

For everyone complaining that they don't want to be forced to download--just have two buttons: March Invoice: View - Download This is much clearer for the average user than a single link with hidden right click functionality. Currently clicking on a link you have no idea what you're going to get.

Good idea, and one that more and more sites are implementing these days.

Re: “Right click and save as” needs to go away

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Post by cfj »

mschuster91 wrote: post #2

I HATE sites that force downloading! I often have a 50+ MBit/sec connection and want to be able to choose between having a PDF (e.g. a invoice - all I need is the amount and the bank data) render in the browser so I can discard it after using (here: wiring the money) and not having to do: 1) download it 2) open it 3) do what I want to do 4) delete the file (which requires me to open the download folder, locate the fi…

I'm almost never on a 50+ MBit/sec connection, which brings up another point. When on a slow, data-capped connection, such as the one I'm on right now, I want to know the size of the file I'm downloading. That lets me decide if it's actually worth spending my precious bandwidth on. If not, I cancel the download. When letting the browser display the file there's no (easy) way of finding out the file size.

Re: “Right click and save as” needs to go away

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Post by sspiff »

raverbashing wrote: post #35
jrochkind1 wrote: post #13

There are already ways to force browsers to download using HTTP headers. The author says this is a "server-side solutions to front-end problem", okay. But anyways, when pages use this already, it OFTEN pisses me off, when I want to look at a PDF in browser, but the web app/page is forcing me to save it to disk and then re-open it in another app. What we _really_ need, that we _don't_ have a way to do right now -- is…

Which is funny, because I absolutely loathe opening in the browser, I prefer saving it. Chrome and FF PDF viewers are better, but with Acrobat it was a bag of hurt. Also, see: saving is the more generic answer. Save and you can see it, open it and before the Chrome 'save' button you had to re-download it.

I agree that the Acrobat plugin was a pain (and I always made sure to disable it in Firefox), but I absolutely love the Firefox in-browser PDF viewer. It doesn't lock up the PC while loading, and it has a convenient download button that doesn't seem to redownload the PDF when clicked (much like saving an already loaded image).

Re: “Right click and save as” needs to go away

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Post by driverdan »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #13

There are already ways to force browsers to download using HTTP headers. The author says this is a "server-side solutions to front-end problem", okay. But anyways, when pages use this already, it OFTEN pisses me off, when I want to look at a PDF in browser, but the web app/page is forcing me to save it to disk and then re-open it in another app. What we _really_ need, that we _don't_ have a way to do right now -- is…

Mobile Chrome often gets this correct. For many file types it will ask what you want to do if you haven't set a default action. Just never set a default and it always asks.
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