Same as every other “cloud provider”, yet somehow Google is the one subjected to these overwritten accounts and the almost mandatory pseudo law/policy musings that follow. You might want to take a look at some policies from others in the industry to get a more accurate picture of this landscape. These policies are constructed as such to mitigate litigation, which the author concedes. Regardless I'm glad this instance…
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#721) A hands-off, hassle-free service that connects to all your Google 'properties' and backs up everything every hour, on the hour, and allows easy importing into a selection of similar replacement services if/when the Googleplex smites me down.
2) See 1).
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#73"Services I'd Pay For", May 2013 Edition: 1) A hands-off, hassle-free service that connects to all your Google 'properties' and backs up everything every hour, on the hour, and allows easy importing into a selection of similar replacement services if/when the Googleplex smites me down. 2) See 1).
You can download CloudPull from: http://www.goldenhillsoftware.com/
CloudPull is free for a single account. For $9.99, you can upgrade to get premium features including support for up to ten Google accounts.
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#74"Services I'd Pay For", May 2013 Edition: 1) A hands-off, hassle-free service that connects to all your Google 'properties' and backs up everything every hour, on the hour, and allows easy importing into a selection of similar replacement services if/when the Googleplex smites me down. 2) See 1).
My Mac app, CloudPull, closely resembles that description. It runs in the background on your Mac, backing up Gmail, Google Contacts, Google Calendar, Google Drive, and Google Reader. It performs backups every hour, and keeps snapshots for 90 days. You can download CloudPull from: http://www.goldenhillsoftware.com/ CloudPull is free for a single account. For $9.99, you can upgrade to get premium features including sup…
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not about sensitive data. It's about email, calendar, drive and other google services you use and rely on for your daily work.
You should not rely on services you're not paying for and don't own for your daily work. :-/ My point isn't about the nature of the data that was stored, my point was the economic reliability of the tool being used to store it. In other words, you want the provider to have some significant incentive not to screw you if your livelihood depends on it.
Whereas you should rely on services you're paying for?
How are they different?
Terms of service even for paid services are BS anyway, and it's not like you will sue them.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Back in the old days before VPS, websites would autoscale leading to huge and unprecedented bills. For example, I hosted a website that contained download links. One day the Chinese found out and hot-linking causing my server bill to jump from $5.95 to over $200. I was 12 and this made me sad.
I believe I was not around then. I started when the shared hosting was a really popular thing with fixed bandwidth and even that could of easily survived HN. So, I'm kind of amazed on why some sites can't handle that in 2013.
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#78* We use Google/Gmail only for mail hosting, not for calender or cloud storage.
* Google apps with our domain.
* We have also an account at Yandex.
* DNS service from DynDNS, MX ttls set to 3600 seconds (1 hour, it could be less)
* For virtualization, we have a i7 machine with 2x1 TB disks (Raid-1).
* For webmail, calender, sharing etc we use Zimbra ( open source version ).
* Everyone has an internal email ( x@office.domain.com ) and external gmail account. Zimbra syncs itself with gmail.
* When somebody sends email , depending user, zimbra send it using gmail or relay.
* At 3 a.m. system automatically shut down Zimbra , takes backup on usb 3 hdd (~100Gb, arround 40 mins) and brings up it again( I know, there is a room for improvement, like rsyncing /opt/zimbra directory ). We change usb disks everyday or two and store other disk at somewhere outside the office.
So,
- If Gmail "dumps" us, we can change our MX to Yandex, stuggle couple hours and then continue to work.
- If local server burns, users can continue to work using Gmail while we build & install new one.
We tried rackspace email hosting but it had problems ( some mails doesn't delivered, some incoming mails lost etc ). Fastmail was/is expensive comparing current infrastructure and it could be viable if we have more than 30 persons.
P.S. : I'm not saying this solution is perfect or it's the only way to do, i'm just sharing.
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#79Of course the author preformed daily backups to removable media and other cloud based services? Let this be a lesson. Data redundancy is important!
Is there a tool to backup your google everything? If there isn't then what you're doing is called "taunting".
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
You should not rely on services you're not paying for and don't own for your daily work. :-/ My point isn't about the nature of the data that was stored, my point was the economic reliability of the tool being used to store it. In other words, you want the provider to have some significant incentive not to screw you if your livelihood depends on it.
> You should not rely on services you're not paying for Whereas you should rely on services you're paying for? How are they different? Terms of service even for paid services are BS anyway, and it's not like you will sue them.