If you want something different/better, start it yourself and evangelize it. If it really is better and you do a good job hopefully it will eventually win out.
The dire state of WordPress
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Re: The dire state of WordPress
#72To paraphrase Churchill, Wordpress is the worst CMS -- except for all the others. I'd love to find an open-source CMS (preferably in Python or Ruby) with clean, secure, elegant code and a well-organized framework that comes with a friendly admin and active, responsive development community like Wordpress, but so far I've got nothing. (If anyone has any suggestions, please do feel free to share them!)
Re: The dire state of WordPress
#73I might be in the minority on HN, but I think that WordPress is doing fine just as it is. Whereas my gag reflex kicks in at the mention of a Drupal contract, WordPress is still pleasant-ish to work with. It's simple enough that I can get my own custom work done without having to spend a ton of time fighting the core system. Though, YMMV depending on the nature of the custom application, I'm sure.
I love that everything custom must go into wp-content. I love that any custom theme functions are supposed to go in functions.php. This keeps things easy to isolate and debug. Its an extreme whose opposite is Drupal, where some obscure functionality can be popping off in one of hundreds of .module or .tpl files.
Its pretty much summed up by "my gag reflex kicks in at the mention of a Drupal contract, WordPress is still pleasant-ish to work with".
Re: The dire state of WordPress
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mezzanine is quite nice: http://mezzanine.jupo.org/ It's Python (a Django app). BSD license. It has many advantages over Wordpress that I won't get into here, but all this is offset by one massive disadvantage: It rests on the Django framework. Django is a nice framework for web development but it takes at least a few months to learn for someone starting from scratch. The installation process for Mezzanine requires s…
Some cloud providers have auto-installers, its all paid though.
http://appsembler.com/blog/paas-bakeoff-comparing-stackato-o...
Read the comments and you'll find out that Mezzanine isn't yet compatible with Django 1.5, causing headaches for those trying to install it for the first time.
Re: The dire state of WordPress
#75To paraphrase Churchill, Wordpress is the worst CMS -- except for all the others. I'd love to find an open-source CMS (preferably in Python or Ruby) with clean, secure, elegant code and a well-organized framework that comes with a friendly admin and active, responsive development community like Wordpress, but so far I've got nothing. (If anyone has any suggestions, please do feel free to share them!)
I like ExpressionEngine if what you really want is a CMS.
Re: The dire state of WordPress
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
I like ExpressionEngine if what you really want is a CMS.
Is ExpressionEngine better for medium to large sites? I've worked with it a bit and did not like it at all, just wondering what it's better for. Did not seem as intuitive for content creators or mom and pop site users.
But if you're an actual business who can spend an hour training your Content Manager(s), then it's worth it, IMHO. It's a dedicated CMS and IMHO better to work on than WP.
Re: The dire state of WordPress
#77As far as I can tell WordPress is stuck. Its success is largely down to the number of theme's and plugins it currently has. You can build pretty much any basic functionality by just installing the plugin's for it. A rewrite would probably benefit the performance and abilities of Wordpress but it would be at the cost of ALL the themes and plugins. The platform would start again from scratch. I don't follow Wordpress t…
It's massively entrenched because of the network effect of the themes and plugins, no doubt. What will overtake wordpress as a blog/cms platform is something that can allow for a large number of the popular themes and plugins to be dropped in (or converted silently). It probably won't happen, but think of Lotus/Excel, for example (or WordPerfect/Word) - both Lotus and WordPerfect were dominant for a long time. People…
Re: The dire state of WordPress
#78I might be in the minority on HN, but I think that WordPress is doing fine just as it is. Whereas my gag reflex kicks in at the mention of a Drupal contract, WordPress is still pleasant-ish to work with. It's simple enough that I can get my own custom work done without having to spend a ton of time fighting the core system. Though, YMMV depending on the nature of the custom application, I'm sure.
I agree that WordPress is fine just as it is. I love that everything custom must go into wp-content. I love that any custom theme functions are supposed to go in functions.php. This keeps things easy to isolate and debug. Its an extreme whose opposite is Drupal, where some obscure functionality can be popping off in one of hundreds of .module or .tpl files. Its pretty much summed up by "my gag reflex kicks in at the…
Re: The dire state of WordPress
#79I would pay money if someone remade Wordpress on Django (and still kept it compatible with existing plugins and themes).
Re: The dire state of WordPress
#80Words are wind and WordPress is not gonna be "fixed" any more than PHP itself will. If you want something different/better, start it yourself and evangelize it. If it really is better and you do a good job hopefully it will eventually win out.