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"By 2009 I was convinced that none of the existing free software communities could create an experience that could challenge the existing proprietary leaders," Shuttleworth wrote, "and so, if we were serious about the dream of a free software norm, we would have to lead." If Unity is the outcome of Canonical's lead, then I'm sorry to say that they're doing it wrong. I want you to download Ubuntu 10.04/10.10 and compa…
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>> I don't find Unity to be better in any meaningful sense than the "community-driven" GNOME 3 It's not better even in a meaningless sense. I just not that good. There are times when you stick to your idea long enough because you are passionately convinced about it and there are times when you stick to that idea because others said it was a bad idea, somehow they were true and now you do not want to accept it. Well,…
The HUD makes no sense on a desktop environment and since I have not tried it on a mobile device I cannot make a final judgement. My gut instinct is that the HUD will work on a mobile device and as the platform matures it will become better. Most people prefer Gnome3, let them use it with other distros. I feel the true battle for Canonical lies in mobile devices and being an entity which can stand up against all the…
>Just roll your eyeballs at the 1337 crowd This is not leadership. If Mr. Shuttleworth truly wants to provide leadership for the FOSS community, then blaming people for disagreeing with him is not a good start and "my way or the highway" is not a sustainable model.
"By 2009 I was convinced that none of the existing free software communities could create an experience that could challenge the existing proprietary leaders," Shuttleworth wrote, "and so, if we were serious about the dream of a free software norm, we would have to lead." If Unity is the outcome of Canonical's lead, then I'm sorry to say that they're doing it wrong. I want you to download Ubuntu 10.04/10.10 and compa…
Ubuntu 10.04 is infinitely better than 12.x and Unity. It blows my mind that anyone could think otherwise. >I sincerely feel someone should take the 10.04 and spin it off into a new better OS, polish it and give it back to the community - If it's good enough, I won't even mind paying for it!! Yes, 100 times yes. If I could get that OS with the 12.x patches and updates, I would do it in a heartbeat.
"By 2009 I was convinced that none of the existing free software communities could create an experience that could challenge the existing proprietary leaders," Shuttleworth wrote, "and so, if we were serious about the dream of a free software norm, we would have to lead." If Unity is the outcome of Canonical's lead, then I'm sorry to say that they're doing it wrong. I want you to download Ubuntu 10.04/10.10 and compa…
>I sincerely feel someone should take the 10.04 and spin it off into a new better OS, polish it and give it back to the community Do you have any particular objections with Mint? It's what I went to after 10.04 (well, after a couple months trying out 12.04 and deciding it definitely wasn't for me).
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He is searching for the widest audience possible...and that is the soccer moms like you mention, not the nerds that care about the 1% of features 99% of their target audience had no need for. He is basically saying that it doesn't work to have 100k people's input from all backgrounds and opinions on a project like Ubuntu because nothing will ever get accomplished. Which is a perfectly reasonable assumption in my view…
You make a good point, but the OSX comparison doesn't work. Apple practically invented the smooth user experience and they design based on feedback and studies, not being arrogant and forcing change for the sake of change. When you boil it down, it's pretty simple. Unity sucks, taking away the users ability to configure sucks, but they've made the stand and don't want to back down because it's the only way they can d…
Also what is the big deal about the Unity hate? It is simple to install another window manager and replace it. Problem solved.
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>> I don't find Unity to be better in any meaningful sense than the "community-driven" GNOME 3 It's not better even in a meaningless sense. I just not that good. There are times when you stick to your idea long enough because you are passionately convinced about it and there are times when you stick to that idea because others said it was a bad idea, somehow they were true and now you do not want to accept it. Well,…
The HUD makes no sense on a desktop environment and since I have not tried it on a mobile device I cannot make a final judgement. My gut instinct is that the HUD will work on a mobile device and as the platform matures it will become better. Most people prefer Gnome3, let them use it with other distros. I feel the true battle for Canonical lies in mobile devices and being an entity which can stand up against all the…
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The actions of Ubuntu affect people using other distributions. If Mir is completed and Nvidia, ATI and Intel decide that they will support it and no longer maintain their X11 drivers, that means that other distributions will suffer because of Ubuntu's actions.
That may be true, if and only if, Mir turns out worse than X11. If it turns out better, then it is a step in the right direction. I really don't see how it could be worse than being stuck in X11-land though. Sure, Wayland may(or may not) end up even better. But why should I care, as long as there is a great improvement to the current situation?
Some people were OK with it, some people weren't, then all of a sudden ubuntu goes and makes a THIRD standard, citing a laundry list of nonsense reasons to abandon all that work. We know the reason they did it, it's the same reason they made that ridiculous unity DE. They want control.
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That's basically saying the linux community and their mindset are antithetical to modern computing. What a massively backhanded insult. Yet also a tragically true statement. The world is flying towards Sim City always on DRM with open arms, and mark shuttleworth wants to lead the charge? Fine. Coddled computing for everyone. For god sakes, A pox on the people who actually choose to use Amazon Linux.
No one's forcing you to use Ubuntu. Don't like it? Move along.
That doesn't mean I can't complain about the stink.
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>I don't like Amazon lens either (there isn't even an Amazon.ro so it's mostly unusable for me), but they have to make money somehow. Find another business model, this one sucks.
I know the parent comment will be downvoted, but I'll reply anyway. I'd like to hear how this "sucks". One could argue they may track you, invasion of privacy or that it's "just the beginning" and will lead to more adware. Those are what I'd call minor complaints. You can say you think it looks bad, or that it slows down your system, or that you'd would never use it. Those are even more minor as you can uninstall it…
I actually want Canonical to be successful. I want them to be profitable and I wish they could find a way to make money without resorting to stupid gimmicks like this.
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I buy things on Amazon twice a year (if that). I have a feeling I'm closer to the average PC user than not.