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Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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Post by tracker1 »

robmclarty wrote: post #44
marknutter wrote: post #41

What I would like to see is an html/css/js framework like bootstrap or groundwork that is completely generic, with no styling at all; just a wireframe that lays everything out as it should. Then provide the ability to customize the look either manually or by some gui on the web. Otherwise you get a raft of "bootstrap" sites out there that all look the same unless a front-end dev goes through the painstaking process o…

Agreed. I've mostly forgone using bootstrap-like foundations because of this issue. It's a lot easier to build something custom from scratch than to undo all the bootstrapped stuff. Maybe it gets you some pretty button styles off the starting block, but later when you really need to fine-tune your UX, it's hard to disentangle what you want from what's "in there". Plus, I find it a lot easier to create semantic markup…

I've found that starting with the source .less files makes it easier to customize, and not include what you don't need... like using FontAwesome for the icons. I do find that bootstrap is a bit too prescriptive in terms of it's offerings, and hope that it can grow a bit. I like where it is a lot better than jQueryUI for example, but find that the more sites that use it with minimal changes, the more you notice it.

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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Post by lucian1900 »

chromedude wrote: post #45
tomelders wrote: post #7

Using Safari 6.0.2, clicking on the first input on this page crashes Safari with a speed and efficiency that can only be admired. http://groundwork.sidereel.com/?url=tooltips-js I wish Safari could shut down that quickly when I manually quit. No problem with Chrome.

Too bad... seems they've fixed it ;P.

Surely there couldn't have been a Safari update pushed out so quickly.

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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Post by Flenser »

brianfryer wrote: post #54
Flenser wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In our current project instead of putting the framework's html/css into our codebase I'm outputting as bare bones html as I can with semantic class names on everything and then mapping those classes to the framework using sass mixins/extends/includes. To make a RWD site I'm having to rewrite a lot of the framework to be mixins instead of classes so that I can use them in @media as SASS doesn't allow @extend in @media…

> What I'd find really useful would be a framework thats entirely built from mixins/partials and outputs no css until you create your own classes that use them. Here's exactly what you're looking for: * Bourbon: A mixin library for Sass ( http://bourbon.io/docs/ ) * Neat: A semantic grid framework built on top of Sass and Bourbon ( http://neat.bourbon.io/ ) And, if you use LESS, you have these options: * LESS Element…

Thanks, I'd forgotten about bourbon/neat.

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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Post by ghepting »

rgj wrote: post #68

Site doesn't even scroll properly on an iPad, everything off-screen seems simply cut off.

This issue is most likely related to the resizer -- if you close the resizer are you still experiencing this issue on the iPad? Also, if everyone can please post issues on the Github Issues that would be very helpful! Thank you! :)

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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Post by ghepting »

pgsch wrote: post #10

Very nice but for some reason the tooltips ( http://groundwork.sidereel.com/tooltips-js ) kill Safari

I am aware of this issue, but haven't identified the problem yet (not on Mountain Lion with my current device) -- any help from the community would be much appreciated! Post any information that would help to resolve this issue here: https://github.com/groundworkcss/groundwork/issues/12

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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Post by ghepting »

kumarharsh wrote: post #18

given that the site is a showcase for the framework, I find their choice of colours and layouts very unappealing. Also, yes, I'd like them to answer the question "Why Us" somewhere on their site.

The intention here is to encourage customization of the color/radius variables in the _variables.scss partial :)

Re: Groundwork - A Responsive HTML5, CSS and JavaScript Framework

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Post by ghepting »

sgdesign wrote: post #12

This is not a criticism of this project specifically, but I feel like when you come out with a framework like this you should have a big "Why you should use Framework XYZ instead of Boostrap" section somewhere, because this is the main question most people will have.

Great point! I will work on drafting something to this effect. Thanks for the feedback! :)
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