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Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

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Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

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Post by AznHisoka »

fatbird wrote: post #50
SkyMarshal wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fatal flaw or working as intended?

The premise of the app is that with a contrived double-blind method, you can turbo past the awkward stage of signalling interest in someone. It's flawed because if I click all my friends just to see who clicked me, then find friends X, Y and Z clicked me, I still don't know if they actually want to have sex with me, or were just doing the same thing I did. We haven't skipped an awkward step at all. In a way, it's wor…

Why can't the reverse be true also? Maybe you clicked around and wanted to see which girls had interest in you. Maybe you both clicked around, and both of you think you each have interest in each other.

Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

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Post by gizmo686 »

fatbird wrote: post #38
colkassad wrote: post #5

Ask HN: What is BangWithFriends? Edit: a Facebook app that where you can click on friends you want to sleep with. If they have the app, they are notified. I would think this would be more cool if both of you are only notified if you both signify that you want to sleep with each other. This could also be toned down to just signify romantic interest to get more engagement.

The fatal flaw in the model is "I'm going to click on all my friends to see who signals interest in me".

How is that a fatal flaw (or a flaw at all). By clicking on all of your friends, you are signalling that you want to have sex with any/all of your friends. At this point, if any of your friends signal a want to have sex with you, the service will see that two people want to have sex with each other and tell them.

If you clicked through all of your friends to see which ones clicked on you (even if you do not want to have sex with them), then you simply lied. People who lie this way will inconvience those who the service paired them with once, after which point none of his friends would click on him again because they do not trust his genuine use of the system. This leaves you with the people using the service as intended.

Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

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Post by leot »

gizmo686 wrote: post #72
fatbird wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fatal flaw in the model is "I'm going to click on all my friends to see who signals interest in me".

How is that a fatal flaw (or a flaw at all). By clicking on all of your friends, you are signalling that you want to have sex with any/all of your friends. At this point, if any of your friends signal a want to have sex with you, the service will see that two people want to have sex with each other and tell them. If you clicked through all of your friends to see which ones clicked on you (even if you do not want to h…

CrushMail (or something like it) circulated among my friends at some point during the late 90s. Perhaps she was fibbing, but the one girl who I think I matched with (??) said she had just clicked on everyone.

So, plausible deniability wins.

On a completely different note: this is basically a non-issue after one's mid-20s, by which point most people seem to have the ability to appropriately inquire after those whom they have an interest in, and have a reasonably good sense for who is eligible and who isn't.

Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

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Post by gizmo686 »

untog wrote: post #29
vy8vWJlco wrote: post #24

Those crazy kids with their crazy ideas about how to love each other. Good for them. I can imagine Version 2.0 being even more general (a craigslist of discreet hypothetical matching) for more than just sexual arrangements. But continuing the sexual theme, obviously the next logical step is N-way group hookups. It occurs to me that something similar could also be implemented in a distributed manner (for use offline o…

Only on HN would sex involve asymmetric encryption and split keys. I kid, but I'd wait to see if this 'crazy idea' is successful (top tip: it won't be) before planning the second iteration.

After seeing this thread, I tried looking for ways to do bangWithFriends in a cryptographicly private way. Eventually I googled "bangwithfriends cryptography" and the first result was this thread.

Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

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Post by codenut »

fatbird wrote: post #38
colkassad wrote: post #5

Ask HN: What is BangWithFriends? Edit: a Facebook app that where you can click on friends you want to sleep with. If they have the app, they are notified. I would think this would be more cool if both of you are only notified if you both signify that you want to sleep with each other. This could also be toned down to just signify romantic interest to get more engagement.

The fatal flaw in the model is "I'm going to click on all my friends to see who signals interest in me".

Exactly. It should also have a search functionality in case you have a thousand friends.
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