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Instagram Asking For Your Government Issued Photo IDs Now, Too

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Re: Instagram Asking For Your Government Issued Photo IDs Now, Too

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Post by meaty »

Permit wrote: post #65
largesse wrote: post #19

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I have friends who work at Facebook. I still don't know how they rationalize their employment.

It sounds like you need to take a moment to consciously reflect on the fact that not everyone cares about privacy to the same extent you do. I don't just mean the privacy of others, but their own privacy as well. To many people, the loss of privacy that comes from being searchable is more than offset by the value they get out of Facebook.

I think it's more that most of the users are ignorant of the privacy implications.

Re: Instagram Asking For Your Government Issued Photo IDs Now, Too

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Post by CamperBob2 »

rachelbythebay wrote: post #21
largesse wrote: post #19

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I have friends who work at Facebook. I still don't know how they rationalize their employment.

I don't know about them, but I know someone from a different company who has it all figured out. Every time their company does something nasty, they just donate to the EFF. Must be nice to have it wrapped up all tidy like.

It seems like a legitimate way to reconcile one's conscience with the realpolitik of modern IT employment, engaged as we are in building the surveillance state/police state/nanny state we were all warned about by 20th century novelists and historians.

I try to do this when I buy an RIAA-published album or watch a Hollywood film. I make sure I donate an equivalent amount to civil-liberties orgs (EFF, ALA, and others) during that year.

"Carbon credits," basically.

Re: Instagram Asking For Your Government Issued Photo IDs Now, Too

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Post by CamperBob2 »

meaty wrote: post #69
arankine wrote: post #57

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Conscience offsetting.

Ugh. Very insightful. It wouldn't surprise me if some startup starts trading conscience futures!

Considering that the movement of money is all that ever changes anything in today's world, I don't think that's a bad idea. I'd listen to their pitch, put it that way.

Re: Instagram Asking For Your Government Issued Photo IDs Now, Too

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Post by wildranter »

largesse wrote: post #19
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #7

The instagram TOS debacle some weeks ago was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I recently stopped using Instagram, and requested account deletion from Facebook. Graph search and its creepy implications were then nothing I needed to find personally objectionable anymore. I no longer have to complain about the other sleazy, move-the-goalposts, amoral aspects of Facebook Instagram. This latest one, I have to…

I have friends who work at Facebook. I still don't know how they rationalize their employment.

Really simple. They need to pay their bills.

I'm sure your frinds rather be working for some project that would make the world better (hey Linux, I'm at you!:) But, still, they have to pay bills.

That's life. Don't like it? Change it.

Re: Instagram Asking For Your Government Issued Photo IDs Now, Too

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Post by mehulkar »

speik wrote: post #67
technoslut wrote: post #27

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This is the way it should be done. I will say that social networks like Facebook have introduced some interesting dynamics and engagement that could have not existed otherwise such as Caine's Arcade. I think we're all waiting for the social network we all want and pay the $10-$12/year for privacy, transparency and complete ownership over our data.

Isn't that what App.net is supposed to be? Or are there problems with it I can't identify (being too poor to deem $5 a month on a social network a valid expense).

The only problem is the Facebook already has a billion users.

Re: Instagram Asking For Your Government Issued Photo IDs Now, Too

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Post by guscost »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #72
rachelbythebay wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about them, but I know someone from a different company who has it all figured out. Every time their company does something nasty, they just donate to the EFF. Must be nice to have it wrapped up all tidy like.

It seems like a legitimate way to reconcile one's conscience with the realpolitik of modern IT employment, engaged as we are in building the surveillance state/police state/nanny state we were all warned about by 20th century novelists and historians. I try to do this when I buy an RIAA-published album or watch a Hollywood film. I make sure I donate an equivalent amount to civil-liberties orgs (EFF, ALA, and others)…

Kinda funny, when I inadvertently buy a TV show or movie that features global warming propaganda, I donate the same amount of money to Climate Audit or Bishop Hill.

Re: Instagram Asking For Your Government Issued Photo IDs Now, Too

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Post by DanBC »

harshreality wrote: post #60
jivatmanx wrote: post #46

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Terrible idea, you'll likely be a felon for distribution of fraudulent federal Identification. Same for anyone who uses it.

If you're generating them with blacked-out DL number and address, that's not really a fake identification card, is it? Not to mention you'd be generating an image, not an actual ID. Creating real-looking ID cards is much more difficult than creating real-looking ID card scans. The most difficult elements would probably be faking the font, and post-processing it to ensure the text looked real (pixel-perfect accuracy a…

> If you're [...] that's not really a fake identification card

I'm not a lawyer, nor a law enforcement officer, nor a prosecutor, nor a judge.

While agree that something to allow you to use a website shouldn't be a serious criminal offence it's easy to imagine that it could be painted as such: unauthorised access to website services after a clear warning; fake id instruments; etc etc etc.

Re: Instagram Asking For Your Government Issued Photo IDs Now, Too

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Post by Tekker »

A hundred bucks this is tied in with photo-tagging and facial recognition. The advantage of a government photo is that you're no longer allowed to smile and are expected to provide a neutral face, all the better for facial recognition. I wouldn't touch Facebook with a ten-foot pole right now.

Re: Instagram Asking For Your Government Issued Photo IDs Now, Too

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Post by zcid »

wildranter wrote: post #74
largesse wrote: post #19

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I have friends who work at Facebook. I still don't know how they rationalize their employment.

Really simple. They need to pay their bills. I'm sure your frinds rather be working for some project that would make the world better (hey Linux, I'm at you!:) But, still, they have to pay bills. That's life. Don't like it? Change it.

I've never bought the excuse about "needing to pay the bills". If you are wiling to compromise your convictions for money, how strong are those convictions in the first place.

It reminds me of a friend of mine whose wife works for the TSA at the airport. Honestly, I have zero respect for her, but hey, at least she can pay her mortgage right?

While Facebook isn't on the same level as working for the TSA, it is definitely a company that appears to be run by people of questionable moral character, and I would absolutely not want to be associated with them.

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