We need unlocked phones ... not another screen manager and drivers ...
Nexus; next question?
Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones
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#72"...there are no immediate plans for actual Ubuntu phones, and no carriers have been signed up yet -- although we're told that the OS will run on any new phone built for Android, should the manufacturer see merit in installing Ubuntu instead." It will be interesting to see if/when a manufacturer picks this up, to hit the mainstream market.
Why the hell do I need manufacturer blessing?? I own the phone. Give me a ROM, Canonical.
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#73As exciting as this is(and for the record based on initial impression i am excited) i am really getting tired of these Key Notes telling me what to think about there products. I know its all marketing but being constantly told how "amazing" "revolutionary" "awesome" these things are really is annoying.
I can decide these things for myself thank you.
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#74This is exciting. They are truly talking about a single device that does it all for you -- your phone is your computer. The phone UI looks a bit different, he says "clean and simple," but just from the video it seems like a bit much to do things. That could just be an initial reaction based on years of other phone OS usage. Why hasnt anyone run with WebOS' UI approach? The whole cards thing seems like the best approa…
If I had to guess, I'd say people are probably scared of patents surrounding WebOS's cards system.
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#75awesome! now i can look forward to upgrades that will kill my phone as effectively as they do my desktop.
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#76This announcement baffles me a little bit. An Ubuntu Phone? Why did they choose to announce a phone OS and not a tablet? Phones are light communication devices for sending brief messages, checking social statuses or updating them. Ubuntu is a full featured OS used in creating and consuming long-form content. If they are hoping to engage with existing OEMs I think they would've had a much better time of it with compan…
They already showed the tablet (Nexus 7 hardware) before.
So the next step is a phone. Since they don't have an OEM partner yet for either might as well announce a phone.
> Phones are light communication devices for sending brief messages, checking social statuses or updating them.
Well that exactly why they picked phone, isn't it. They want a phone to be a light communication device for sending brief messages _and_ also a full fledged OS that can consume long-form content.
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#77Edit: Here's the keynote video. Skip to about 6:35 sec for the new bits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU Direct link to 6:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU&feature=play... First thoughts: 2014 is a long way away and a whole year is an eternity in mobile space. It kind of looks like Unity in portrait mode but without the dock. What does it bring new to developers that isn't there in Android? F…
> It says it uses the Android kernel and drivers to be compatible with the hardware Where did you see that? Are you sure you're not confusing it with the "Ubuntu for Android" project? That is a different project from this. I don't think an Ubuntu phone will have anything to do with Android. It's its own OS, and you won't see it on all phones or anything like that - just on the "Ubuntu phones" that will be shipping st…
Quoting http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems :
> Ubuntu has already been adapted to run on chipsets using the ARM and Intel x86 architectures relevant for mobile devices, with the core system based around a typical Android Board Support Package (BSP). So chipset vendors and hardware manufacturers do not need to invest in or maintain new hardware support packages for Ubuntu on smartphones. In short, if you already make handsets that run Android, the work needed to adopt Ubuntu will be trivial.
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#78Can I run this on my old iPhone 3G?
Most probably not. Apple doesn't like people hacking into Apple devices.
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#79This is a good thing, but having known Canonical and Ubuntu since the start (2004), I would really love to see them succeed in the desktop market first. This initiative will de-focus their efforts. I admire them, and wish them good luck anyway.
I think they already realized that the desktop market is shrinking. Come to think of it, in my extended family I don't even know anyone who bought a desktop computer in the last 4 years. A few people got a laptop, lots of smart phones and tons of tablets.
So if they are going to wait to succeed on the desktop it might be too late. As fewer and fewer people will care about the desktop by that point.
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#80This is a good thing, but having known Canonical and Ubuntu since the start (2004), I would really love to see them succeed in the desktop market first. This initiative will de-focus their efforts. I admire them, and wish them good luck anyway.
The desktop market is more or less disappearing. On the business end of things, business has no issue paying the paltry sum of what windows + office costs. I'm not sure what else they can do in the desktop space. IMHO, Unity sucks pretty hard on the desktop and both MS and Ubuntu have taken major missteps. I also imagine Win8 SP1 will bring back some kind of classic mode. Not sure if Unity will ever be desktop-ified…
> The desktop market is more or less disappearing
I think you mean "declining" rather than disappearing.
The last I heard (october news) pc sales were expected to decline by 1% in 2012. If that means "disappearing", that would mean the auto industry has disappeared years ago.