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Re: No Man's Sky Cosmos

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Post by kjs3 »

jimmyjazz14 wrote: post #10
helle253 wrote: post #5

It's amazing how, every time i come back to NMS, the whole thing feels like... nothing. It's a very cool and ambitious project, but there's fundamentally nothing substantial to it in terms of gameplay. It still feels to me, a decade later, more like a very very impressive tech demo than a video game

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I have tried coming back to the game multiple times and every time I just feel bored and underwhelmed by the whole experience.

Yeah...I played it for probably a couple of hundred hours...and it wasn't that fun. In fact, it's boring. And I've come back a too many times because someone (like some of the commenters here) said "no, man...get the new update! It's a Totally Different Game!". So I jump back in, and it's different to varying degrees...and still boring. Just because there's "lots to do! new quests! rare items to find!", doesn't mean doing them is fun.

Re: No Man's Sky Cosmos

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Post by JohnMakin »

mortenjorck wrote: post #53
JohnMakin wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure that you've played it recently? They added an actual story, a huge quest hub, unique items, tons of stuff to do really. I'm quite overwhelmed with the amount of things to do and I don't typically enjoy sandboxes.

I've bounced off NMS several times, but each time I come back, I reason that they've added so many systems now that the procedural generation must finally feel genuinely deep and interesting. And maybe it has, but the first 60 minutes of the game still feel like enough of a slog that I have yet to get to any of the good stuff.

The first 60 minutes are definitely a slog, but once you open up access to the quest hub and get access to larger ships that function as bases, the game really opens up. I play it as a "get away" from more competitive/stressful games. The exploration of planets never really appealed to me and doesn't feel like a huge component of the game as much as maybe it did in the early days unless you're hunting for particular resource nodes.

Re: No Man's Sky Cosmos

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Post by saejox »

helle253 wrote: post #5

It's amazing how, every time i come back to NMS, the whole thing feels like... nothing. It's a very cool and ambitious project, but there's fundamentally nothing substantial to it in terms of gameplay. It still feels to me, a decade later, more like a very very impressive tech demo than a video game

they add feature after feature. but never a good drive for the player. 'why should i go to this planet?'

i have an idea for it,

Let users populate the universe with custom quests. Scriptable quests with dialog and multipart structure. You need a custom script language and some limitations on it. Example quests:

- "Bandits have occupied our town", but actually bandits are tax collectors. You instead may help them document the goods.

- "Our star is dying", instead a huge starhip is recharging and refusing to move without some condition.

also add a rumor system to lead players to quests.

you can use my idea Hello Games, you have my permission.

Re: No Man's Sky Cosmos

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Post by nosioptar »

Holy shit, they're charging $60 for a 10 year old game that only runs on windows.

Not even worth pirating if I have to set up a container with wine, I'd rather spend that time drinking wine.

Re: No Man's Sky Cosmos

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Post by gavinray »

BISH-BASH-BOSH wrote: post #7
helle253 wrote: post #5

It's amazing how, every time i come back to NMS, the whole thing feels like... nothing. It's a very cool and ambitious project, but there's fundamentally nothing substantial to it in terms of gameplay. It still feels to me, a decade later, more like a very very impressive tech demo than a video game

I was just about to say this. I have a lot of respect for the dev team but man is it so not my type of game. I wish somehow the complexity of eve could meet a game like this. I would sell a kidney for that

X4?

Re: No Man's Sky Cosmos

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Post by noir_lord »

jackmott42 wrote: post #28
Avicebron wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel exactly the same. There has to be a way to do procedural generation in a way that doesn't feel "sparse". A thought that comes to me as I type this is what if you try to co-evolve the ecosystems so it doesn't feel like it's just a mix of the same base components in different quantities.

The best proc gen experience I have had is with minecraft modpack called hexxit. The world is procedural generated, but then there is a library of ~200+ hand built structures/features that are scattered throughout the generated terrain. So you wander through a forest and find a cave into a volcano full of diamongs but guarded by angry dwarves, then head over into the desert and find a castle with a witch king, etc et…

Mine was a procedurally generated FPS I've forgotten the name of, it used a seed key to generate the map and then you could fight on it, if it was a cool map you could just keep or share the key so was replayable.

Iirc it used a voxel engine so would have been late 90's.

Re: No Man's Sky Cosmos

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Post by noir_lord »

JohnMakin wrote: post #72
mortenjorck wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've bounced off NMS several times, but each time I come back, I reason that they've added so many systems now that the procedural generation must finally feel genuinely deep and interesting. And maybe it has, but the first 60 minutes of the game still feel like enough of a slog that I have yet to get to any of the good stuff.

The first 60 minutes are definitely a slog, but once you open up access to the quest hub and get access to larger ships that function as bases, the game really opens up. I play it as a "get away" from more competitive/stressful games. The exploration of planets never really appealed to me and doesn't feel like a huge component of the game as much as maybe it did in the early days unless you're hunting for particular…

Same, it's basically sci-fi Minecraft, it's just a chill game you can potter about doing whatever you want in.

Re: No Man's Sky Cosmos

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Post by sfn42 »

BISH-BASH-BOSH wrote: post #7
helle253 wrote: post #5

It's amazing how, every time i come back to NMS, the whole thing feels like... nothing. It's a very cool and ambitious project, but there's fundamentally nothing substantial to it in terms of gameplay. It still feels to me, a decade later, more like a very very impressive tech demo than a video game

I was just about to say this. I have a lot of respect for the dev team but man is it so not my type of game. I wish somehow the complexity of eve could meet a game like this. I would sell a kidney for that

I recently tried star citizen and it's kind of trying to be something like that but it's way too half baked with lots of game breaking bugs like you'll just lose the entire cargo of your ship which can completely bankrupt you after days of saving up. Also they keep releasing bigger and fancier pay to win ships at ridiculous price points like hundreds and even thousands of dollars instead of fixing the game. I tried it during a free week and I legitimately enjoyed it a lot but I was also extremely frustrated a lot by the bugs and the pay to win crap really rubs me the wrong way so I didn't buy it after the free trial ended.

It's a weird mix of amazingly well done and absolute garbage. And pay to win. Don't forget about the pay to win bullshit.

Re: No Man's Sky Cosmos

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Post by john_strinlai »

spandrew wrote: post #69
john_strinlai wrote: post #31

at the time of posting, i think every top-level comment except one is negative. so, i'd like to balance it by saying that i have never seen a better executed turnaround than what the no man's sky team did. they cratered their reputation on launch, worked hard and long to restore it, and then continued to offer free updates long after they needed to. lots of respect there. (i will reward the effort by purchasing their…

I disagree with this logic. They launched an empty, hollow game. And the features they've bolted on "for free" haven't addressed any of the core gameplay or emptiness issues people have with it. Most of their new systems are half baked—confusing and only adding to the game design mess the game came out with. I'm convinced the reputation that they executed a "turnaround" is based on them staggering a few nonsense rele…

>And the features they've bolted on "for free" haven't

why scare quotes around for free? they were free.

>haven't addressed any of the core gameplay or emptiness issues people have with it.

i went from hating it to really enjoying it. i am not the only one.

>based on them staggering a few nonsense releases and being good on social media ad spends. The game is still bad and not worth the money.

my comment comes from my opinion and my experience, not social media. i think its a good game, and i would say it's absolutely worth the money.

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