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Re: Google Flights

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post #53
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For values of "brilliant" that originate in North America only...

Exactly, I wanted to try and see what it said about a flight I had planned, and I only got "Sorry, flights from Belgium are not currently supported. Sorry, flights from Germany are not currently supported.". Strangely, it did support Greece (or so it said), but it doesn't seem to handle transfers very well, giving me no way to fly from Athens to the Newark. I'm going to rate this tool a solid 1/10.

It's the US only for now. I don't think that should warrant a 1/10...

Re: Google Flights

#72
post #68

I have it on reasonable authority that at least one X.25 era hacker has exploited ye-olde travel provider interfaces to: A) automatically detect and utilize cheap global routes B) brute force discount codes for global hotel chains

Care to elaborate? I am missing context here. Do you mean a Google Flights employee is that hacker? Or is X.25 accessible to anyone with an Internet connection and knowledge of ye olde software running on green phosphorescent screens?

Nothing to do with google flights. Just a fun note about the old CRS platforms generally.

Re: Google Flights

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, I wanted to try and see what it said about a flight I had planned, and I only got "Sorry, flights from Belgium are not currently supported. Sorry, flights from Germany are not currently supported.". Strangely, it did support Greece (or so it said), but it doesn't seem to handle transfers very well, giving me no way to fly from Athens to the Newark. I'm going to rate this tool a solid 1/10.

It's the US only for now. I don't think that should warrant a 1/10...

Well, maybe a 2/10.

It's 2012. A US-only service when there are TONS of international alternatives?

Re: Google Flights

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's great for cheap airlines. For major carriers there are better tools (e.g. ITA Matrix).

... and ITA Matrix was bought by Google, and its latest incarnation is Google Flights.

Matrix hasn't gone anywhere (http://matrix.itasoftware.com/). And it still does things that Google Flights doesn't (such as working outside North America).

Re: Google Flights

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post #3

It's okay, but it's no Hipmunk.

There's presenting the existing data well (Google) and there is adding value to existing to make it more useful (Hipmunk).

I find that Google's innovation for almost every one of their products is in saying "we have oodles of data, how can we display it effectively"? They have done well at collecting and quickly accessing large amounts of data, linking loosely coupled sets, and in some cases, adding meaning (image searches understand the concept of "bright" or "dim", for example).

But I rarely see them taking the data they have and merging it in a way to create new meaning or value. Hipmunk, beyond co-opting a gantt chart, did this with their "agony" score. Google not only didn't try here, they didn't try for local search either, and just acquired Zagat for their score (and brand name and loyal following, etc.). And many startups offer meaning above and beyond that combined in the data: through their experience, their ability to merge context from being subject matter experts, or just their flexibility to experiment without a spotlight on them. Google tends to stop short of any of these.

So, yes, it's no Hipmunk: it's a typically well done Google product taking hairy data, merging it up, and displaying it well. Doing more than that, however, is left to the rest of the world.

(Though, one wonders why ITA didn't do some of these things before when they first created this better way of looking at flights a few years ago...)

Re: Google Flights

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post #30

For values of "brilliant" that originate in North America only...

++ I use Skyscanner here in Europe for regional and international flights, however really the prices are only useful as an indication. For example, one flight I found the cheapest option was Ryanair, but when I actually booked it the price was €10 cheaper than listed on Skyscanner.

I also like http://www.checkfelix.com/

Re: Google Flights

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Opened a few tabs with HN items in it. Booked my trip to SF, then started browsing the tabs. Hit this tab, tried it, found a flight for about $80 less than I just booked.

Lesson learned: always read HN before doing actual work.

Re: Google Flights

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So sad to see matrix.itasoftware.com's amazing search engine get most of it's features ripped out and replaced with a pretty UI that does so little.

For folks who like hipmonk? Do you really travel? Their search engine also fails to find most good fares. Pretty but useless.

Most people who are serious use expertflyer.com and matrix.itasoftware.com to find fares. Yes you have to learn a bit about how air fares are constructed, but this is hacker news not consumer news isn't it?

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