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Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by kenjackson »

redox99 wrote: post #65
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Google, Zuck, Sama, Elon, Amodei (in no particular order). They all suck. Pick your poison.

They don't all suck equally.

Here's the order, from best to worst.

Amodei

Google

SamA

Zuck

Elon

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#72

Post by fouc »

tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

How have they had a negative impact? How about google?

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#73

Post by EugeneOZ »

simonw wrote: post #3

llm -m meta-ai/muse-spark-1.3 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht... 4.2266 cents, 38 seconds. For comparison here's Muse Spark 1.2, which animated it without me asking it to: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht... The 1.3 one is definitely better - better bicycle frame, better wing, better pelican hat. UPDATE: Here's an…

Absolutely BRUTAL! :)

Thank you for doing this, I love your benchmark the most!

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

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Post by johntb86 »

simonw wrote: post #7
drusepth wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a reason these pelicans always have roughly the same composition (side-view, 2d, biking right, flat ground beneath, etc)? I don't see any of that detailed in the prompt, yet they all seem to generate roughly the same image of differing quality.

It's really interesting, isn't it? They almost always cycle from left to right - but I have had a few which cycle in the other direction. The 2D / flat ground feels reasonable for a SVG, which implies a vector illustration.

Someone studied this (among other thigns): https://dylancastillo.co/posts/pelicanmaxxing.html . Pelicans on bikes always face right in this test, but other animals on other transportation methods sometimes face left.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#75

Post by idiotsecant »

drob518 wrote: post #70
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Gotta be honest that I’m tired of the “I hate Zuck and Meta so much” comments every time Meta does anything. Ditto Elon/X. Fine, I get it. I don’t like Zuck either. But the post is about Muse Spark 1.3. What do you think about that? If you don’t like it because Meta made it, then maybe just don’t use it and stay silent.

Not liking something because the embodiment of corporate malfeasance is a rational way to decide what products to support.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#76

Post by scottyah »

kenjackson wrote: post #71
redox99 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google, Zuck, Sama, Elon, Amodei (in no particular order). They all suck. Pick your poison.

They don't all suck equally. Here's the order, from best to worst. Amodei Google SamA Zuck Elon

SamA better than Zuck? Zuck was at least a kid when he made a lot of his bad decisions, and he seems to be getting much better. Sam is on the reverse trajectory.

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#77

Post by srcreigh »

polyterative wrote: post #44
vunderba wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more generic your prompt, the more generic the response. It's a regression to the "mean" of the training data aka GIGO for AI. It's like when you ask your average person off the street to draw a house - it'll almost always be square with a triangle roof, one door, and two windows. In the pelican/bike example, it's probably a bit of a self-perpetuating snowball too. If the earliest examples were bike left-to-right…

as a kid I did them like this. nobody told me to do that. are we all so similar?

The adults brainwashed us

https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/barndroem-box-beige-70560615/

https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/vallaby-rug-green-10548216/

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#78

Post by collabs »

polyterative wrote: post #44
vunderba wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more generic your prompt, the more generic the response. It's a regression to the "mean" of the training data aka GIGO for AI. It's like when you ask your average person off the street to draw a house - it'll almost always be square with a triangle roof, one door, and two windows. In the pelican/bike example, it's probably a bit of a self-perpetuating snowball too. If the earliest examples were bike left-to-right…

as a kid I did them like this. nobody told me to do that. are we all so similar?

I sincerely believe I've never had a single original thought™ in my whole life.

There is this scene in the HBO series Westworld where a "host" says some words in sequence which is shown on a display as she says it. Of course, even me thinking of this scene and connecting it to your comment was not original, someone else clearly had the same programming as me.

A medium blog post says

> Pair what with me?” — the moment Maeve (a humanoid android) uttered those words in Westworld (Season 1, Episode 6: “The Adversary”), something clicked. Not for the average viewer, but for me, a STEM educator and AI enthusiast who, just weeks earlier, had read Stephen Wolfram’s seminal essay, What Is ChatGPT Doing … and Why Does It Work?

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#79

Post by redox99 »

kenjackson wrote: post #71
redox99 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google, Zuck, Sama, Elon, Amodei (in no particular order). They all suck. Pick your poison.

They don't all suck equally. Here's the order, from best to worst. Amodei Google SamA Zuck Elon

You can ask 100 people and they'll all give you a different list. It's subjective.

I think a less personal ranking would be, as a business owner, which of those providers is more dependable? As in, you don't care about evil, just your stuff working. I think maybe OpenAI?

Re: Muse Spark 1.3

#80

Post by duplessitous »

drob518 wrote: post #70
tyre wrote: post #47

Meta is one of those companies where, if there is anything remotely comparable, I'm happy to pay more to not use them. They've had a profoundly negative impact on society and Zuckerberg is not who I want controlling the future at the top of AI. I feel the same about Grok w/ Elon. I will pay extra to use someone else. I'm not an Amodei stan, but of all of these people he seems to have the most ethical focus. Again, no…

Gotta be honest that I’m tired of the “I hate Zuck and Meta so much” comments every time Meta does anything. Ditto Elon/X. Fine, I get it. I don’t like Zuck either. But the post is about Muse Spark 1.3. What do you think about that? If you don’t like it because Meta made it, then maybe just don’t use it and stay silent.

Technology doesn't just spring into being, there will always be comments on the organizations that developed it. If you don't like them or find them repetitive, it is far easier to collapse them and move on then bend a stranger to your will
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