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Re: Judge sets framework for Nine PBS to retrieve archival data

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How exactly is the judge an activist judge in this case? Did you just find a random HN article that had "judge" in the name, and register an account to air an unrelated grievance?

Nope

Re: Judge sets framework for Nine PBS to retrieve archival data

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I think stories like these highlight the need for clearer (not necessarily more) regulations around contractor/subcontractor/client relationships and what happens when one of them goes tits up. There were rampant issues in the fintech world that exploded when Synapse, a banking as a service provider, went bankrupt and their ledger didn't match what partner banks had in their accounts. End users were told "your deposi…

Why do HN comments which are of little or no relevance to topic always rise to the top of the comments list?

Are there some kind of commenting rings or voting rings involved in the phenomenon?

I mean what has FDIC deposit insurance got to do with some bankrupt or dissolved company depriving customers of their data?

It makes HN virtually useless as a means of assessing the opinions around the actual topic.

Perhaps HN should use some kind of AI analysis to mark which comment threads which are on topic and enable to be sorted accordingly.

Re: Judge sets framework for Nine PBS to retrieve archival data

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> These archives represent an important part of our region’s history, and we look forward to ensuring their preservation and protection through the Court-approved process. Apparently you didn't find them important enough to have backups. Hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in net income and they couldn't afford a cheap NAS with 4 disks. Incredible.

They did, they contracted with a vendor to store and backup the data. If that is insufficient then just about every customer of AWS, Azure, GCP, OCP, and every other managed storage provider is guilty of the same sin.

That's not a backup, that was their only copy of the data.

2 is one, and 1 is none.

I wouldn't hire someone with this mindset of yours to run the IT at my company, we'd lose data for sure.

Re: Judge sets framework for Nine PBS to retrieve archival data

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> These archives represent an important part of our region’s history, and we look forward to ensuring their preservation and protection through the Court-approved process. Apparently you didn't find them important enough to have backups. Hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in net income and they couldn't afford a cheap NAS with 4 disks. Incredible.

I wonder the proportion of companies who store backups with a minimum of two separate vendors. Low?

They don't even need another vendor, they could literally have their own on-site copy. Then they not only have 2 copies of the data, but they're in geographically distinct locations, so an 'act of God' wouldn't take out the data either (unless that act was the entire world being destroyed, but I digress).

Re: Judge sets framework for Nine PBS to retrieve archival data

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> These archives represent an important part of our region’s history, and we look forward to ensuring their preservation and protection through the Court-approved process. Apparently you didn't find them important enough to have backups. Hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in net income and they couldn't afford a cheap NAS with 4 disks. Incredible.

I don't understand why you were downvoted. There is no excuse for them to not have local copies. In the context of video production 55TB is nothing. They must have local storage that's significantly larger than that already.

Probably mostly by people who recognize that they are in the same situation but don't want to come to terms with the fact that their data is not safe.

Though, most individuals at least have the financial excuse. This station did not. (In fact, long term, a local copy of the data would cost significantly less than a monthly/yearly billed cloud storage provider.)

Re: Judge sets framework for Nine PBS to retrieve archival data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that statement by Iron Mountain's attorney believable, though? If cage or server access was shared between Iron Mountain customers, how can Iron Mountain not have a record of what's in what cage or what's on what server? If Iron Mountain customers like OSS were free to add or remove things without Iron Mountain's knowledge, then their (OSS's) access would've been limited to cages or servers dedicated to their (OSS…

What iron mountain does know is which drives are owned by oss. What they don't know is which drives owned by oss have the station's data on them. Hopefully nothing is comingled and drives are dedicated to a customer. Seemingly only oss knows and they went bankrupt so who knows what shape the records are in.

It's also possible IM serves a scaleable storage system that mingles data across customers. If you S3 they don't isolate clients per physical drive, they store blocks pretty randomly across millions of drives.

Plus the case above: OSS could have had another company storing sensitive medical records, and this hands over those drives to a PBS station.

Re: Judge sets framework for Nine PBS to retrieve archival data

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I think stories like these highlight the need for clearer (not necessarily more) regulations around contractor/subcontractor/client relationships and what happens when one of them goes tits up. There were rampant issues in the fintech world that exploded when Synapse, a banking as a service provider, went bankrupt and their ledger didn't match what partner banks had in their accounts. End users were told "your deposi…

> I feel like a lot of tech innovation and "business process innovation" over the past 15 years was just ignoring regulations that were built up over decades, only discovering the reasons for those regulations when the tide went out and seeing that lots of companies had been pantsless the whole time.

It's not just tech, it's everything. One of the things the US is really "good" at is allowing a massive gap to emerge between law and enforcement.

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