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Re: I Don't Understand

#71

Creating a culture where asking questions and identifying when one doesn't understand something is what we strive for, but there still seems to be a stigmatism when one expresses their confusion. How do we create an environment where one doesn't feel it's wrong to ask for clarification without being subject to "looking stupid"?

I like to think most people in our field are naturally curious, so make sure your environment doesn't stifle that attitude. Hold group learning sessions for new technologies, code reviews, and so forth. As a senior explicitly seek out advice and explanations from newer colleagues even if you can figure it out on your own. Hopefully they'll end up feeling comfortable doing the same.

Re: I Don't Understand

#72
I started saying "I don't understand" years ago. A few very intelligent people have looked at me like I'm an idiot when I've said it. Don't expect it to make you look good in front of everyone.

Re: I Don't Understand

#73
That the most experienced devs say this the most might not be just about status games. You need to have a very solid shared background to be able to jump to understanding something after the sort of short verbal explanation "I don't understand" can be replied with.

If I go to an university lecture on advanced math, I won't understand things, and can say so. But it's unlikely the lecturer can say anything in the span of five minutes that will make me understand, since what would actually get me close to understanding the content of that lecture are several semesters worth of studies leading up to it.

The senior devs might be the only people on the room who do have such a solid grasp of their stuff that they can fill in their understanding with just a few minutes of explanation. Junior people don't understand either, but they might need to work over the new thing for hours, not five minutes, to get a proper handle on it, and you can't give an hours-long answer to someone who says they don't understand.

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As an instructor I have the opposite problem. How can I encourage students to say “I don’t understand”?

Make a personal plea at the beginning of your semester stating that it's okay to say "I don't understand," and that even instructors say that often enough. Make it clear that struggling is a perfectly normal factor of life -- in fact one could argue that intelligence is a measurement of someone's history of struggling. One could even go so far that the top 5% of any class are simply people who have 'struggled' the mo…

That was a really interesting article. I've been praised for my knowledge but was always a slacker in school. It seems that praising effort has a great impact on motivation.

Re: I Don't Understand

#75
There's an Israeli saying that encapsulates this effect exactly (if somewhat abrasively): "Whoever asks, is stupid for a moment; whoever doesn't ask, stays stupid forever."

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#76
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Socrates, the ancient Greek philosopher from 2,500 years aging said this. "Wisest is he who knows he does not know". And er, Donald Rumsfeld, when talking about unknown unknowns.

"I don't understand" is to relate to "I don't know", of which something along the lines of this is said:

"He who asks a question may look like a fool once, but he who keeps his question to himself will stay a fool for the rest of his life."

Result-driven teaching in our societies fuels the natural fear of failure and of the look of your peers, when proper teaching should result in driving curiosity through one's own recognition of not knowing something as being a positive thing.

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#77

I first noticed this effect in college, when the prof would be talking about something that didn't make sense to me. If I remained silent, he'd never explain (of course) and I'd remain ignorant. However, whenever I asked him, everyone would start furiously writing down his explanation in their notes. So I got into the habit of saying "I don't understand". Inevitably, there would be quite a number of other people who…

Yes, absolutely. Asking questions is how you turn a lecture from a poor substitute for just reading about the subject into something far better.

From the other side I find it incredibly useful to get questions while speaking and I wish I was better at encouraging them. When writing a talk you have to write for some imaginary audience who won't ever quite match your actual one. But if you can get them to start asking questions then immediately you have the opportunity to tailor what you're doing for the audience in front of you. It's a very satisfying feeling :)

Any tips from anyone here for making people feel more inclined to ask questions? Often the ones who could most benefit (and create the most benefit for others) are the the ones least likely to have the confidence to do it.

Re: I Don't Understand

#78

I am but an egg. Very new as a developer, not particularly good. The smartest programmer in my workspace frequently looks for me when he's trying to solve something hard. There are a dozen people around us, at least, who are better able to _solve_ whatever problem he's working on. But they don't ask as many questions. I ask a lot of questions. Midway through explaining stuff he's solved his problem. And meanwhile I'v…

You're not an egg. You're an abnormally active rubber duck.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging

Re: I Don't Understand

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post #77

I first noticed this effect in college, when the prof would be talking about something that didn't make sense to me. If I remained silent, he'd never explain (of course) and I'd remain ignorant. However, whenever I asked him, everyone would start furiously writing down his explanation in their notes. So I got into the habit of saying "I don't understand". Inevitably, there would be quite a number of other people who…

Yes, absolutely. Asking questions is how you turn a lecture from a poor substitute for just reading about the subject into something far better. From the other side I find it incredibly useful to get questions while speaking and I wish I was better at encouraging them. When writing a talk you have to write for some imaginary audience who won't ever quite match your actual one. But if you can get them to start asking…

> Any tips from anyone here for making people feel more inclined to ask questions?

Become more of an asshole.

There are probably more eloquent ways of phrasing that, but I want something that will stick in your mind when you're actually on the spot, and that works.

The idea here is to stop caring quite so much about what others want and what others will think of you.

If you constantly worry that you're interrupting the flow and that you'll be bogging everyone else down, don't. Embrace the asshole side of you to ask the question and damn the consequences.

If you worry that the people around you will think you're dense, fuck them. They don't have the first clue about you, and you're in that class for you, not for them.

Re: I Don't Understand

#80

As an instructor I have the opposite problem. How can I encourage students to say “I don’t understand”?

I once had a teacher who would ask: "Who got that?" And then pick one of those not raising their hand: "What did you not understand?"
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