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OpenAI's new device will be hockey puck-sized and cost over $300
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#72> The idea is to make the device easy to carry around the home with one hand. So their target audience has a large enough home that they need a completely separate device since they have areas that aren't covered either by smart speakers or their phone. But the device has little functionality outside the home, because it requires talking to it which usually cannot be done in public. How large is this group of wealthy…
> The first thing I would want to do with this new device would be to put a chain around it and hang it around my neck, but it seems specifically designed to not do that.
How do you figure?
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#73I wonder what exact features this would provide that the mobile app cannot. I don’t wanna carry another device with me all the time
> I don’t wanna carry another device with me all the time And that's why this (and any other stand alone "AI device") is doomed to fail. We solved this problem already in 2007. "An iPod. A phone. An internet communicator. Are you getting it? These are not three separate devices." The industry has been chasing that high ever since, failing to stop and consider that maybe the smartphone is effectively peak consumer tec…
It is funny how often history repeats itself.
Facebook learned this same lesson when they were upset at not being able to control devices that were running their software.
OpenAI is going to learn that same lesson. No one wants a second device.
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#74I think a truly open source OS and phone is what both Facebook, OpenAI, Amazon, Netflix, Epic, Microsoft, Spotify and many others need to get out of the grips of Apple.
It’s quite ironic that all these companies pour billions in failed attempts of stores, hardware, platforms, lawsuits yet fail to collaborate in any meaningful way to establish a new standard that is truly better.
It implicitly also proves that their problem is not with the app stores being closed, but that they don’t own it.
There’s nothing wrong with the phone, we don’t need glasses, hockeypucks or new contrived ways to interact with the digital world, we need a truly open hardware and software stack for the benefit of humanity, no lockdown, no one company in control, just a healthy platform where apps can thrive in a fair competition.
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#75Does anyone actually use ChatGPT’s voice mode? It seems technically impressive, but when I try using it, it feels… deeply uncomfortable talking to a machine like you would a person.
Treating it like you would a person feels silly: It’s not a person, it doesn’t have any life experience or anything interesting to say, it doesn’t have real opinions or anything worth talking about that isn’t a direct answer to your question. So having a “conversation” with it feels like I’m doing role-playing with a computer. And it gets into “weird” territory, fast.
But if you treat it like you would an LLM chatbot, to get specific answers to questions, or to explain something to you, it’s so. much. worse than having the answer on a screen for me to skim and reference directly. Either the answer is too brief to be helpful, or too long and it’s talking forever and I have to make it stop. I suppose certain highly specific questions that have brief and concise answers, it may be good at?
Maybe I just haven’t found the right use case for it yet. Or maybe my discomfort is just my introversion coming through, and normal people don’t have this problem.
Re: OpenAI's new device will be hockey puck-sized and cost over $300
#76Does anyone actually use ChatGPT’s voice mode? It seems technically impressive, but when I try using it, it feels… deeply uncomfortable talking to a machine like you would a person. Treating it like you would a person feels silly: It’s not a person, it doesn’t have any life experience or anything interesting to say, it doesn’t have real opinions or anything worth talking about that isn’t a direct answer to your quest…
I've talked to ChatGPT in the car whilst driving to learn various topics. It easier to talk than type and the real time verbal feedback helps with the learning.
It is a bit strange, the outputs are the result of complex mathematical computations and math doesn't have feelings, but it does occasionally generate genuinely useful outputs.
If you're aware that you are talking to a bot, then I see no problem with it. The problem is the dissonance people get talking to an AI like its real.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
That trend is a pipedream! In the US roughly half of teens said they were online “almost constantly" Just look around kids 8-20 are basically: Fortnite + Roblox + TikTok + YouTube + Netflix + phone all day
People don't have to actually follow through with the trend to buy the product, only think they want to. Same as selling fitness products to people who end up doing very little fitness
OpenAI isn’t interested in useless products that sell for quick money. They want people to use it, they want to be embedded in the public’s mindshare.
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#78A device thats worse than the phone you already have, which is dead the second you stop paying your monthly OpenAI sub, and is useless if you decide you prefer other LLM provider. Where do we sign up? Voice is almost always the worst, most frustrating interface.
Think about how much scrolling through UIs, settings menus, and different interfaces we have for every app that are all designed differently. Is this really peak technology, or something that is just the best we’ve been able to do without “smart” agents that can manipulate these programs themselves?
Is swiping on a flat screen really the endgame?
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#79Is this the device they picked up Johnny Ive to design?
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#80I wonder what exact features this would provide that the mobile app cannot. I don’t wanna carry another device with me all the time
> I don’t wanna carry another device with me all the time And that's why this (and any other stand alone "AI device") is doomed to fail. We solved this problem already in 2007. "An iPod. A phone. An internet communicator. Are you getting it? These are not three separate devices." The industry has been chasing that high ever since, failing to stop and consider that maybe the smartphone is effectively peak consumer tec…
I am not a fan of OpenAI, but I believe the long-view for many AI companies is that AI will replace the phone and all of its functions, essentially being voice activated, summarizing version.
Though this doesn't work in public settings, so I am also not totally sure what the long-view is..