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Re: Look out Sublime and Textmate ... here comes Brackets (stunning)

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Post by nnq » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 11:21 AM UTC

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #56

nnq wrote: post #20

How hard would it be for someone to build and IDE (with nice code browser, refactoring and all the smart stuff... like JetBrains products) on top of or incorporating an editor like Sublime or Textmate? I'd pay an arm and leg for IDEA or PyCharm with Sublime as the text editor (or something else with multiple cursors and all the "shiny" editor stuff), and the ability to launch either the full IDE or just the editor an…

> (or something else with multiple cursors IDEA supports multiple cursors, actually, ;). As for IDE support, I find Sublime text extended with a few key plugins to be just as good as a proper IDE when it comes to (in my case) front-end development; JS checking with JSHint, syntax highlighting for html/js/less, quick HTML using ZenCoding, andsoforth.

...what?!

Care to enlighten me about how to enable or use this? (yes, it finally got column mode editing, but it is far from true multi-cursors, ctr+click in 3 different random places, even two of them on the same line and then move around, expand/contract selection to scope and do zen-coding tricks to them at the same time - yes, it's functionally equivalent to a refactor or a search and replace, but these alternatives break the "don't make me think!" philosophy of true multi-cursor editing that I consider the biggest advantage)

Re: Look out Sublime and Textmate ... here comes Brackets (stunning)

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Post by omgtehlion » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 1:01 PM UTC

veidr wrote: post #44

Here's the important link for anybody else who downloaded this and then thought "Damn, I fell for yet another link bait post for some halfassed unfinished edito-- HEY , what a great font !!". https://github.com/adobe/Source-Code-Pro/downloads

Have you forgot [sacrasm] tag?

Re: Look out Sublime and Textmate ... here comes Brackets (stunning)

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Post by veidr » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 1:11 PM UTC

omgtehlion wrote: post #72

veidr wrote: post #44

Here's the important link for anybody else who downloaded this and then thought "Damn, I fell for yet another link bait post for some halfassed unfinished edito-- HEY , what a great font !!". https://github.com/adobe/Source-Code-Pro/downloads

Have you forgot [sacrasm] tag?

No.

Do you mean that you weren't impressed with the font?

Or that there was something of value that I missed in this self-descriptive blog announcement of yet another pre-alpha release of an experimental text editor?

EDIT: Modern after-the-fact typo correction, be damned! Self-descriptive not 'self-deceptive'...

Re: Look out Sublime and Textmate ... here comes Brackets (stunning)

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Post by veidr » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 1:18 PM UTC

btipling wrote: post #26

Eventually everyone's editor search ends with vim, emacs or a management position. All these editors like Sublime Text 2, Chocolat, Light IDE, Cloud9, etc fail at very basic task: sticking around. They also fail at another task: being available everywhere. If a new decent editor shows up, it wont be shiny, it wont grab headlines on HN with a fancily designed website, it will simply grow popular slowly, be added to pa…

Not sure that Sublime Text 2 fits with those other products you mentioned.

I recognize that anecdotes != winning PowerBall tickets, but I have never in my life met a user of Chocolat, Light IDE, or Cloud9.

But pretty much every Mac or Windows developer I know has ST2 at least installed (Linux, not so much (at least not yet), although it is available).

Re: Look out Sublime and Textmate ... here comes Brackets (stunning)

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Post by rartichoke » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 2:09 PM UTC

Linux support should be a first class citizen IMO.

I'm not too impressed by the editor. It's like a less mature and worse version of cloud9. The only neat thing was the inline tag-based css editing window but I wouldn't switch editors just for that.

Re: Look out Sublime and Textmate ... here comes Brackets (stunning)

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Post by antihero » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 2:20 PM UTC

btipling wrote: post #26

Eventually everyone's editor search ends with vim, emacs or a management position. All these editors like Sublime Text 2, Chocolat, Light IDE, Cloud9, etc fail at very basic task: sticking around. They also fail at another task: being available everywhere. If a new decent editor shows up, it wont be shiny, it wont grab headlines on HN with a fancily designed website, it will simply grow popular slowly, be added to pa…

ST2 seems to be sticking around so far, it's not the author's fault that it's new.

Re: Look out Sublime and Textmate ... here comes Brackets (stunning)

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Post by glomph » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 2:49 PM UTC

subsection1h wrote: post #57

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good grief. Emacs and VIM use has actually been going down since the 90s as a percentage of the developer community, and no one is predicting that they will regain market share. And back to the original article, live programming and rich editing experiences is the future; emacs and VIM will go the way of the typewriter and x-terminal.

Emacs and VIM use has actually been going down since the 90s as a percentage of the developer community The quality of the developer community seems to have gone down since the 90s. Maybe the OP should have stated "Eventually every great developer's editor search ends with vim, emacs or a management position." At least, this has been my experience. live programming and rich editing experiences is the future I was pre…

And in my day penny sweats only cost a penny!

Re: Look out Sublime and Textmate ... here comes Brackets (stunning)

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Post by hollerith » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 2:50 PM UTC

btipling wrote: post #26

Eventually everyone's editor search ends with vim, emacs or a management position. All these editors like Sublime Text 2, Chocolat, Light IDE, Cloud9, etc fail at very basic task: sticking around. They also fail at another task: being available everywhere. If a new decent editor shows up, it wont be shiny, it wont grab headlines on HN with a fancily designed website, it will simply grow popular slowly, be added to pa…

The "sticking around" argument is weak. It applies equally well to Windows, Office, the System 360 line of computers and plain old telephone service.

Re: Look out Sublime and Textmate ... here comes Brackets (stunning)

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Post by drharris » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 3:12 PM UTC

Derbasti wrote: post #40

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good grief. Emacs and VIM use has actually been going down since the 90s as a percentage of the developer community, and no one is predicting that they will regain market share. And back to the original article, live programming and rich editing experiences is the future; emacs and VIM will go the way of the typewriter and x-terminal.

Right. Who uses terminals these days?! Except just about every developer I know.

I use terminals, but not dumb terminals. I use terminal emulators on a modern OS on which I am able to install any editor I want. I have emacs/vim installed, but I use them maybe once every few months. There are better editors for what I do.

Re: Look out Sublime and Textmate ... here comes Brackets (stunning)

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Post by Derbasti » Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 5:16 PM UTC

venomsnake wrote: post #43

Derbasti wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right. Who uses terminals these days?! Except just about every developer I know.

Disclaimer: Every is defined as not including a lot of developers on Microsoft platforms, web developers, Java Enterprise developers etc ...

The Devs I know are predominantly on Windows, but they still use terminals. Some use CMD terminals on Windows, some use Putty on some remote Linux box. Some use Cygwin. And then there are a few Linux/OSX people who mostly use the graphical terminals native to their platform.