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Which streaming service was that on again?

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Re: Which streaming service was that on again?

#71

What the courts did to the studios back in the '40s should be done today. Your company can either commission/produce original content OR you can be a distributor OR exhibitor. Only one.

Ok. Now two companies with similar board members enter in to an exclusive licensing deal.

Re: Which streaming service was that on again?

#72
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix had “everything” because it was the first (commercially successful) mover on streaming, and as a result it was pretty much the only game in town for a long time. Every other producer HAD to be on Netflix if they wanted to reach the streaming audiences. It was only after their success did all the other producers feel comfortable that this was the future, started building their own apps, and then had to wait fo…

There were so many expensive TV shows being made that it simply wasn't sustainable. We're actually back to normal. TV before streaming was A LOT of reruns, trashy talkshows/reality TV, soaps and quiz shows.

The 90s and earlier, yeah. But cable in the first 15 years of the 2000s is where TV peaked quality-wise. Streaming captured the max output, but peak TV quality was largely before streaming went from re-runs to new-production. The 2015-2022 era honestly watered the quality down quite a bit.

IMDB Top shows ratings https://www.imdb.com/chart/toptv/ - the bulk of the top for scripted series are cable shows (especially HBO)

RottenTomatoes fan picks https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/rt25-fans-top-tv-... - very similar list

Re: Which streaming service was that on again?

#73

What the courts did to the studios back in the '40s should be done today. Your company can either commission/produce original content OR you can be a distributor OR exhibitor. Only one.

Ok. Now two companies with similar board members enter in to an exclusive licensing deal.

If you abuse that it becomes a competitive disadvantage if others don't. The people making and selling the shows wouldn't want to make a deal with a studio who won't put it out for truly competitive bids.

That's why you got things like this: Universal (NBC) produced House; Fox aired it. Touchstone/ABC produced Scrubs; NBC aired the first 7 seasons. Brooklyn 99 was made by Universal, aired on Fox originally. Modern Family was made by Fox, broadcast on ABC.

(The vertical integration today even extends to exclusive deals with those show-creators to try to prevent that too. Which isn't exactly great for quality either.)

Re: Which streaming service was that on again?

#74
post #53

"It's just that the ecosystem became too fragmented" Ecosystems are either too fragmented or too monopolistic. Complain, complain, complain. Speaking of monopolistic, just google it guys, google knows where the movies/shows stream, that is your unified interface.

The ideal outcome for users would be like how music turned out. Aside from a few attempts at exclusives, you can get all the music no matter which of a myriad of services you use. If you want to subscribe and stream, you can do that. If you want to own something, you can buy it, DRM-free.

Re: Which streaming service was that on again?

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You remember incorrectly. The first real commercial on-demand streaming service to gain traction was Netflix, and it exploded in popularity precisely because it did have "almost everything". One reasonable price, practically everything worth watching. That was the original promise.

It really wasn't. Early streaming (like 2012-ish, after cord-cutting was possible but before it was mainstream) had Netflix and Hulu as the two major services, and so anything that was on streaming was on one of those two. But lots and lots of stuff just wasn't on streaming at all. If you subscribed to Netflix back then, you probably subscribed to both the streaming and the disc-mailing plan, because there were enoug…

The truth is that there was a lot more available in the early days of Netflix than there is now, which with some rose-tinted glasses may very well make it seem like Netflix had everything.

It wasn't until studios caught on to the fact that streaming was going to significantly eat into cable subscription revenues that they began pulling their licenses so they could start their own streaming services.

Re: Which streaming service was that on again?

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> The original promise of streaming was simple. Everything would be available whenever you wanted it. You could sit down in the evening and binge an entire season without waiting a week for the next episode. That's not how I remember it. Streaming services never had everything . The promise was: there would be something you would enjoy. There are two reasons why this isn't working for us: 1. They've cut costs and ove…

> 2. We've started expecting "must-see" shows and movies. You want to watch The Pitt, and then are mad that you need to get HBO or whatever and can't just watch it on Netflix. Perhaps you could browse Netflix and find something you'd like, but you have your heart set on a specific show. Obviously (1) is a failing of the streaming providers, but I think (2) is on us a little bit. Cultural monoculture is not good. Foll…

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Re: Which streaming service was that on again?

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> There are probably a few ways to improve things. Cross-platform search should be standard by now. A shared watchlist across services would help. Apple tried this with the TV app on their AppleTVs. It was supposed to pull all your subscriptions into one interface, searchable, with tracking and watchlists and all that good stuff. One unified app to all your content. Then Netflix said they weren't going to play ball,…

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Re: Which streaming service was that on again?

#79
Streaming services need a simple, industry standard JSON search API to enable discovery and search by devices and client and web apps. It shouldn't obscure snowflake code locked away proprietary to each service, or need to be glued together by a third party API or app.

Re: Which streaming service was that on again?

#80

> The original promise of streaming was simple. Everything would be available whenever you wanted it. You could sit down in the evening and binge an entire season without waiting a week for the next episode. That's not how I remember it. Streaming services never had everything . The promise was: there would be something you would enjoy. There are two reasons why this isn't working for us: 1. They've cut costs and ove…

I find the 2 being framed as fault of "us" weird. It seems completely normal to me to want to read a specific book rather then "just some" or see a specific movie rather then "any movie will do".

Watching things because a friend praised them or because you seen a good review or because you liked it and want to re-watch is no more "the bad herd following" then mindlessly opening Netflix and clicking whatever it recommends.

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