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"Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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Isn't LLM training, the development?

LLMs come complete they don't train on the fly based on interaction with the world. LLMs are wikipedia if they stopped allowing edits and all of the previous edits are training.

there is infact RL for LLMs and its unlikely the frontier labs do not use it in some ways

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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Parrots can also sound extremely human, but it’s only mimicry. How do we know the difference?

If you want to know if something is a human or a parrot, you could give it a paint brush and ask it to paint the Mona Lisa.

you can also use your eyes, hands or other senses :').

reminds me of those jokes?

what is difference between a parot and a human? silence rly? u cant tell the difference between a parot and a human? :')

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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The most interesting result for me is that they apparently prompted the models to optimize for SSIM, but many of the models trend worse over time. I suppose because viewing the canvas always comes after drawing, and they didn't give "revert to previous" capability as part of the toolkit. Which in turn kinda jives with my experience of using these models for code: to some extent they only seem to have a concept of "fo…

Stopping problem at work. I wonder if results would improve if we gave the agents an “undo” or “revert” tool.

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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"You can't QoS that" sounds like the title of a nerdcore rap song.

Some of my poetry has clear IT jargon, but it's a very small portion of it ( For some reason, OpenAI models, Gemini (and apparently Grok too), love to latch onto this and obsess over this idea that it's "programming poetry" or "poetry for the IT crowd". Often OpenAI and Gemini try to write the "equations of my poetry" (granted, I do write about a cyclical relationship between thinking, feeling and writing a lot, and…

might also be U shaped memory issue did you try changing the order of your poems to see if it focusses on different ones? maybe it just happened to have those old ones in points it memory was focused at. (ofc its not good but would be an alternative idea to it focussing on IT things/code to produce such results)

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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The Grok ones are amusing, almost comically bad. However, whenever I've tried to pass an image creation request to any of the Opus models, it's been far worse, like first week of using Microsoft Paint bad (while ChatGPT would create social media quality images using the same prompts)

Opus doesn't have access to an image model, while ChatGPT does (it's not multi-modal, but it can prompt OpenAI's image model). So Opus by default is forced to write code to generate images, or generate SVG's as text. That's putting it in a worse situation than the linked article, where all the models were given rudimentary tools.

Give Opus access to an image model, and it will use that to create images just fine just like ChatGPT.

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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Grok! LOL! Seriously, what's going on there ? Why is it so different from others? Is it just behind technologically/training wise or it's using something fundamentally different?

The razor-wire at the bottom for Starry Night was clever, and very Grok. Really shows its military spirit. Edit: I just don't see the point of redacting the Mona Lisa

Redacting? Is that not just the model using the smudge tool it was given.

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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Perhaps there was something in the prompt or settings preventing this, but I'm surprised (and slightly disappointed) that none of the models approached this the way I would: download an image of the Mona Lisa, run all of the drawing functions many times to construct a forward model of the drawing implements, and attempt to solve some kind of explicit inverse problem through either ML or a classical algorithm to minimize some difference metric. Were they just restricted from running code or are the models unindustrious without a very specific prompt?

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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As I looked through the images I was unimpressed entirely, at first. But, then I started thinking, these look a little... "childish" to me. Childish as in... A newish artist who is drawing a concept rather than light / forms (Which is something artists typically do as they understand drawing more and more). The rose in the vase specifically - some models understood that there was supposed to be shading, reflections,…

Grok consistently draws images that, if I were its parent, I would refuse to put on the fridge door.

Re: "Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

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Yes, but Parrots don't mimic the stages of learning speech development like children do. They just memorize a phrase. These SOTA LLMs aren't trying to mimic existing children's drawings, but interestingly they're following somewhat similar progression that human children do as they develop.

They don’t develop. We should stop anthropomorphizing LLMs. AI labs are improving the ML techniques used to build better models; it’s a big difference.

That's very clearly what they're referring to also, or at least I certainly doubt this would be lost on them, or most anyone here, at this point.
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