Blanket claims like "Everbody" are trivially falsifiable. I'm not "weirded out" by AI, and I'm not foisting it on anyone. There's a strange vein of aggressive-denialism that anyone could find AI genuinely useful (bordering on miraculous) even if it hasn't yet cured cancer, led to 100% unemployment, solved nuclear fusion, etc.
"Blanket claims like "Everybody" are trivially falsifiable." As are claims like "No one" or "99.9%" How many times per week are such claims made on HN and in similar forums with respect to software and hardware curl https://hn.algolia.com/api/v1/search?query=no+one&tags=comment |grep -Eo '\"nbHits\":[0-9]+' Perhaps the term "everybody" is just a figure of speech used in an online title. Can we, should we, forgive HN…
Everybody's Weirded Out by AI–Except the People Who Foist It on Us
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I’m flattered that you followed my posts long enough to have an opinion on all this and even can recognize if a site is “definitely mine”. Question though — what do you have against what I’m saying or working hard towards? Trying to create healthier versions of technologies and help people? https://www.laweekly.com/restoring-healthy-communities/
go back through all of your comments from the last decade, group them by comments that promote/mention one of your projects and comments that do not. I’d ballpark 95% of your comments have been self-aggrandizing self-promotion, it is exhausting to read. I guess today was the day I said something when I saw someone else suffering through another one of your comments. You might want to create healthier technology but y…
Excuse me, for actually trying to build things instead of just bitching and then let people on HN know about them, or posting things that I believe in. According to you, I guess I should have spent more % of my posts being snarky and attacking things others have built, like our friend here.
I have contributed quite a bit — not i n the form of snark, but in the form of actual SOLUTIONS that I built and put on github as open source. If you don’t want to click or use it or even look at it, that says more about you than me.
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Pretty sure there is nothing about “complex workflows broken down into encrypted graph segments”. Did you just make that up to add some oomph? The actual point of the article was: recursive self improvement is scary and upredictable, you can get 99% of the benefit by doing the reliable and predictable thing instead. Did you even read the actual article? I didn’t see anything in your comment about that main thesis whi…
> Pretty sure there is nothing about “complex workflows broken down into encrypted graph segments”. In the quotes I noted [Architecture Page], which is the extremely prominent blue button/link on the SafeBots homepage. (To a PDF.) It's on the slide "Scalability: Distributed Reasoning & Encrypted DAGs", number 11 with a black background. > Did you just make that up I choose to take this false-accusation as a positive…
The front page of safebots.ai contains stuff I put up quickly 6 months ago when I was first making the site. I used Google Notebook LM to create the presentation, based on my notes, since people like “pretty designs”. And it put the word encrypted in there, which was wrong. Yes, the data (and graph) is in fact encrypted at rest, so technically it’s true, but not the main point.
I have since actually built the code, and wrote many articles around it, none of which have the word “encrypted”. Here is a good jumping off point:
I didn’t expect you to ignore the entire article I linked to, go clicking around the website and into a PDF from a completely different page, go to slide 11 and post it. Suffice it to say - your conclusion is totally wrong. But I’m glad you highlighted that specific title. It is time to thoroughly redo that front page - so it is more accurate to what the project has become!
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
go back through all of your comments from the last decade, group them by comments that promote/mention one of your projects and comments that do not. I’d ballpark 95% of your comments have been self-aggrandizing self-promotion, it is exhausting to read. I guess today was the day I said something when I saw someone else suffering through another one of your comments. You might want to create healthier technology but y…
No you won’t. You won’t eat your hat — but I’ve written quite a few substantive comments on quite a few subjects that didn’t have to do with self-promotion. The difference is that those comments actually contributed LESS to HN, because they involved random arguments that were ultimately forgotten. Excuse me, for actually trying to build things instead of just bitching and then let people on HN know about them, or pos…
Safebots isn’t a contribution. You have just reinvented tools but bundled it with thousands of words of AI generated slop and terrible AI generated “ideas”. Everyone with Grok invents a new “computing substrate”. Yes, “substrate” is such a Grokism that I can immediately identify you use Grok for “thinking”.
If you spent just a little more time reading and a little less time self-promoting you would know that you are 12 months behind everyone else, human in the loop approval flows for tool execution are standard. The examples of LLMs doing destructive things are because users provided blanket approval.
https://ai-sdk.dev/docs/ai-sdk-core/tools-and-tool-calling#t...
“I have contributed quite a bit — not i n the form of snark, but in the form of actual SOLUTIONS that I built and put on github as open source.”
Code that nobody has ever used. HN is a discussion forum, you haven’t contributed to discussion. You have always been a slop merchant, quite impressive that you were slopping before LLMs, maybe you are an internet innovator after all.
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No you won’t. You won’t eat your hat — but I’ve written quite a few substantive comments on quite a few subjects that didn’t have to do with self-promotion. The difference is that those comments actually contributed LESS to HN, because they involved random arguments that were ultimately forgotten. Excuse me, for actually trying to build things instead of just bitching and then let people on HN know about them, or pos…
And yet your next comment after this was, once again, self promotion, proving my point. Safebots isn’t a contribution. You have just reinvented tools but bundled it with thousands of words of AI generated slop and terrible AI generated “ideas”. Everyone with Grok invents a new “computing substrate”. Yes, “substrate” is such a Grokism that I can immediately identify you use Grok for “thinking”. If you spent just a lit…
Also, sadly, your common predilection on HN to ridicule and scorn everything is biasing you against the most important set of solutions in AI. It ain’t about making the models safer - more aligned - or refusals. For what it’s worth I’ll try to share one more article with you, but I doubt you’ll get it: https://safebots.ai/about
So you’d have me engage in “discussion” by which you mean criticizing work others do. Sorry to disappoint you by ACTUALLY building working solutions to actual problems, instead of just bitching 24/7. Must make you really aggravated to have to hear about that. Yes, I have been working on free software for a decade before LLMs. And giving it away for free. Ooh, I’m such a moocher on your time! You’re always free to scroll past and continue “contributing” the next 10 years of snarky comments. Maybe you can even speed it up with LLMs — I am sure it will greatly improve people’s lives :)
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And yet your next comment after this was, once again, self promotion, proving my point. Safebots isn’t a contribution. You have just reinvented tools but bundled it with thousands of words of AI generated slop and terrible AI generated “ideas”. Everyone with Grok invents a new “computing substrate”. Yes, “substrate” is such a Grokism that I can immediately identify you use Grok for “thinking”. If you spent just a lit…
Wrong again. I didn’t use Grok, and I hardly use Elon’s AI models for anything LOL Also, sadly, your common predilection on HN to ridicule and scorn everything is biasing you against the most important set of solutions in AI. It ain’t about making the models safer - more aligned - or refusals. For what it’s worth I’ll try to share one more article with you, but I doubt you’ll get it: https://safebots.ai/about So you’…
I’ll give you a million dollars if safebot is ever mentioned by someone credible. You don’t seem to realize that you are 1 of millions of people doing exactly the same thing, I have read so many of these revolutionary safety ideas, the only thing worse are all the god awful “memory” solutions people keep “inventing”.
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Wrong again. I didn’t use Grok, and I hardly use Elon’s AI models for anything LOL Also, sadly, your common predilection on HN to ridicule and scorn everything is biasing you against the most important set of solutions in AI. It ain’t about making the models safer - more aligned - or refusals. For what it’s worth I’ll try to share one more article with you, but I doubt you’ll get it: https://safebots.ai/about So you’…
You’re back to the grandiose claims. The most important set of solutions in AI? Just as intercoin was the most important solution for money and qbix was the most important solution for community. You’ve been doing the same shtick for 20 years. Yawn. A month / year / decade from now when you’re still doing the same grandiose shit with zero traction, refer back to this thread. You are clearly intelligent but wasting al…
"I'll eat my hat". No, you won't.
"I'll give you a million dollars." Sir, you likely don't have a million dollars to just give away like that. And even if you had, you wouldn't do it.
So, one of us is making actual, true claims based on years of hard work. You may consider them grandiose -- and you're entitled to your opinion -- but I can back it up with actual actions. Your claims are... well, just false.
Here is "someone credible" mentioning Safecloud just 2 weeks ago, and by mentioning, I mean writing an article about it appearing on their front page: https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2026/06/19/safecloud-browser...
Here are their own "grandiose" claims about themselves:
Help Net Security is an industry-leading cybersecurity publication with over 350,000 readers per month. Since 1998, we have been committed to providing high-quality information to our audience through publishing relevant original content and analyzing market trends. https://www.linkedin.com/company/helpnetsecurity
Okay, that was Safecloud, not Safebots. But what if, say, I give a talk at a conference about Safebots, or it's starting to get covered in magazines? If we get a thousand users all using safebots? Ten thousand? What if Robert Scoble interviews me, or a bunch of influencers start using it? At what point can you say "someone credible mentioned safebot and here's your million dollars" LOL
And I don't mean mention in a dubious way, like when the BBC covered our unfortunate flirtation with using monero mining to pay for our apps... somehow our app was used by enough people around the world that Newsweek, the BBC, 9to5Mac, ArsTechnica (which broke the story) etc. cared: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43386918
That's not the kind of publicity I'm looking for. But honestly, I'm curious. Are you a secret billionaire with a few exits under your belt who would toss a million bucks to me if "safebot is ever mentioned by someone credible"? No? Then maybe the "grandiose" claims are not on my side :)
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It’s one of the most amazing technological achievements of the 21st century to date, if not the most amazing by far. But it’s still a machine executing a program. Your emotional reaction to it might be because you’re seeing it as something more than that.
mRNA vaccines takes the first place for sure, and by a wide margin. But also advancements in lithium ion batteries and solar cell technology. We also finally generated electricity with fusion power this century, traveled to Pluto and set up the James Webb Space telescope [albeit the latter two are engineering achievements]. I think using an absurd amount of power to train a neural network on stolen data which is then…
First, I want to point out how inconsistent you're being in mentioning "electricity with fusion power". We've had the ability to create fusion for almost 3/4 of a century. Most of the nuclear weapons in the world today are primarily fusion weapons (mostly with fission starters.) This is a technology that has killed nearly a quarter million people. But you're touting a variation of it as being one of the most amazing technological achievements this century.
That's fine, but then you have to recognize that you're distinguishing between the capabilities of the technology and its actual usages.
Now do the same thing with AI, and if you're intellectually honest about it, you'll be forced to change your position. The technology represents the greatest technological advance of anything we've seen this century. The political and economic forces surrounding its use are a separate question.
As for your list of technologies - the problem with it is that none of those items seemed like science fiction at the start of this century. Whereas, what LLMs can do now was essentially science fiction as little as five years ago.
In detail:
* mRNA vaccines were developed in the 1990s. There was little question that they could be made to work in humans, all that was needed was sufficient impetus, which was provided by COVID-19.
* Advancements in lithium ion batteries and solar cell technology are incremental enhancements to existing tech. No comparison here.
* Generated electricity with fusion power - that was first done in 1991 at the Joint European Torus (JET) facility. You may be thinking of the so-called "scientific breakeven" which was achieved in late 2022. That didn't actually generate electricity, just heat. It was also a rather arbitrary milestone that doesn't actually mean much, in practice. We're still orders of magnitude away from a true total system breakeven, where the total energy produced is greater than the energy consumed. The system that achieved scientific breakeven is not the kind of system that can be scaled up to address that gap. We're even further away from commercial power breakeven, where the value of the energy produced is greater than the cost of producing it. It's quite possible, even highly likely, that neither of the two goals I've just described will ever be achieved. There's no real breakthrough here, just marketing hype in a multi-decade effort to achieve something that may not even be possible.
* Traveled to Pluto - the Voyager spacecraft passed Pluto's average orbital distance in the early 1990s. Choosing to send a probe directly to Pluto is just a choice that would have been just as possible last century.
* The James Webb Space telescope - certainly a nice incremental advance, but not in the ballpark in terms of achieving something we didn't even know how to do before.
In short, if that's the best list you can come up with, it essentially confirms that LLMs are the greatest technological achievement of the 21st century so far.
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#79> But would it have improved my comprehension? The research says no. I don’t know, I find myself doing things I would’ve never done before AI. I find myself doing more projects outside of work. I discover new problem domains and are less afraid of tackling the unknown. I code in languages I don’t know and start learning how they work. I can get anything explained to me, at any time, in a somewhat coherent manner, by…
> it’s definitely a revolution in access to information Did you mean: Google?
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An example from last night. If I Google “how much is 7KwH”, I get a list of calculator websites for converting units. If I ask an LLM, it tells me “your usage is pretty low for an apartment, good job!” The latter is exactly the question I had in mind. Not even close.
Did you deliberately screw up the capitalization so thoroughly that it bears no resemblance to the standard abbreviations? Are you one of those people who writes about "mb" and "kb" for computers, too? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilowatt-hour Obviously, LLMs are quite tolerant of typos, and even ignore mis-capitalization, or it may have at least tried to correct your improper usages.
Is this deliberate miscapitalization thing a behavior you often encounter?