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It works fine for me. Either it's swamped with traffic, or something sucks ass on your end.
it was handing me 502s for a minute.
We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes
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#72Hey, I’m the author of this article. Just thought I’d share some context, since HN is a little outside the intended audience: - We’re a tiny design studio specialising in fonts, so our website was (maybe predictably) not set up to handle a big traffic spike. It should be stable now. - This article was written in response to some font industry discussions on the same topic. It’s a collection of thoughts rather than a…
Thanks for writing it, I enjoyed the perspective. I found it by way of Michael Sacasas' post: https://theconvivialsociety.substack.com/p/feeding-on-illusi...
Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes
#73Where are the voices of reason? My wife got an email from a new hire (now even a new hire yet: she's still on a trial basis), a 23 years old, where she explains that she doesn't want to use AI. That she doesn't like what AI does. On a funny sidenote: the email is obviously 99% llmish, which is hilarious. That's one extremity: crazy people who refuse to learn a new tool. Then on the other extremity you have the even m…
You might not be hearing from these people. I use LLMs daily to piece together technical reports and smooth out rough drafts. It saves me hours of time / week. I also use it to augment my technical work, because I don't want to be out of a job one day with no marketable skills, except driving an agent harness. There is a percentage of the population that thinks LLMs are actually intelligent and truly can't tell the d…
>others just want to live life as a passenger, not think, and have AI do all the work.
Fuck, doesn't everyone? The future we were promised is one where machines did all the work leaving humans free to pursue a richer existence, whether that's creative pastimes or just laying on a beach.
Instead of democratizing the future, essentially every technological advance since the printing press has served only to increase the concentration of wealth and power at the top.
I can't imagine actually wanting to work if you didn't have to.
Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes
#74I'm the op on this one (not the author). Gotta say, I had higher hopes for the community here. Isn't it worthwhile to examine our patterns of thinking and work? Shouldn't alternative perspectives such as these spark conversation, rather than sly jibes? HN grew from curiosity and good-faith. Y'all are not showing up.
it's funny when a site posted on a tech board goes down from traffic. it's funnier when the site is making some kind of principled stance about the power of handmade tools, which presumably made the site, which went down.
Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the eye roll is the need to shout that you don’t use AI. It’s the new web dev, imo. This post wasn’t about sparking conversation. It’s about using AI makes me lose the human touch in what I do, blah blah, heard it all before. Sorry, not sorry.
It is one of the biggest things to ever happen in the history of software, art, and writing. We're nowhere near the "it's meaningless to talk about why you don't like it" threshold.
we're so near and literally beyond that threshold
Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes
#76Hey, I’m the author of this article. Just thought I’d share some context, since HN is a little outside the intended audience: - We’re a tiny design studio specialising in fonts, so our website was (maybe predictably) not set up to handle a big traffic spike. It should be stable now. - This article was written in response to some font industry discussions on the same topic. It’s a collection of thoughts rather than a…
For font design, and art beyond what could be called boilerplate art, real art, not just something to quickly throw on a website so you have something there, AI is not a good tool.
I think AI will take over many jobs, firstly in the arrangement of characters and words into stock text, or coding. But art, not just pictures, is something that will take longer and may never happen. Design is very similar.
Good art makes you feel something, and you need the human experience to feel that before you can make that and make other people feel that.
Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes
#77I'm the op on this one (not the author). Gotta say, I had higher hopes for the community here. Isn't it worthwhile to examine our patterns of thinking and work? Shouldn't alternative perspectives such as these spark conversation, rather than sly jibes? HN grew from curiosity and good-faith. Y'all are not showing up.
I think the eye roll is the need to shout that you don’t use AI. It’s the new web dev, imo. This post wasn’t about sparking conversation. It’s about using AI makes me lose the human touch in what I do, blah blah, heard it all before. Sorry, not sorry.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
You might not be hearing from these people. I use LLMs daily to piece together technical reports and smooth out rough drafts. It saves me hours of time / week. I also use it to augment my technical work, because I don't want to be out of a job one day with no marketable skills, except driving an agent harness. There is a percentage of the population that thinks LLMs are actually intelligent and truly can't tell the d…
>others just want to live life as a passenger, not think, and have AI do all the work. Fuck, doesn't everyone? The future we were promised is one where machines did all the work leaving humans free to pursue a richer existence, whether that's creative pastimes or just laying on a beach. Instead of democratizing the future, essentially every technological advance since the printing press has served only to increase th…
Lots of people enjoy doing things - no need to treat them like assholes just for that. The sci-fi version of AI frees people up - the real version sometimes (mostly?) takes away enjoyable work and reduces people's ability to make a life for their family without being miserable (which is the fault of the practical reality of our society - not inherently AI's fault).
Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes
#79What sort of human hands make computer fonts? Are you there coding in the ones and zeros on some sort of breadboard, wiring up the data using an oscilloscope and rare earth magnets?
There seems to be this idea that using AI is the same thing as walking away and not touching it. Like that you would just say to the computer, do the thing and then not look at it, read it or edit it in any way. What's the world where you're describing where you wouldn't select and edit and refine? You know, with software as an example, how that works with AI is that you spend all day opting it and refining it and you do it over and over and over and you're guiding it and you're shaping it. So it's not like the computer does it. You're still there. I mean, you're making a typeface. You're not chiseling something into stone. You're making a program of sorts that will make shapes. And I don't know why there would be any world where you would just walk away from your first prompt and call it done.
Re: We don't use AI in any of our design or production processes
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the eye roll is the need to shout that you don’t use AI. It’s the new web dev, imo. This post wasn’t about sparking conversation. It’s about using AI makes me lose the human touch in what I do, blah blah, heard it all before. Sorry, not sorry.
TFA raises several points I hadn't heard before. Here's one. The artifacts we produce define our culture. If we allow LLMs to produce our work, our culture represents that which they understand. But LLMs can't be trained on the entirety of the human experience. "How dare we abandon so many countless traditions and people and ideas and nuances, simply because they are underrepresented in the training data?" I just fe…
But that's not anything new, and even in the same text you can see examples of that.
LLMs are a tool. The brush is a tool, the pencil is a tool. The way we write already is defined by tools. This very comment is remarkably defined by its medium, I can't control its font size! Or the font at all, for that matter, nor the color, hell I can't even control how and where this comment is read! This means I'm generally going to write it in English, a whole different language from my native one! How is that for "defining"???
None of this is new, it's all dictated by human experience in the very same way that the output of a LLM gets dictated by human experience. That's the way memes (as in, anthropology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme?) work.
LLMs don't understand, they just output based on some parameters. We've been here before.