Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Pseudpocalypse

dynomight.net

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

71–80 of 92 posts

Re: Pseudpocalypse

#71

Post by Schlagbohrer »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #31

"Pseudpocalypse"... why not "pseudocalypse" or "pseudoapocalypse"? As an aside, it's always surprising to see how English speakers split Greek words like "Apocalypse". That is to say, they always split them in the middle of Greek syllables, or just drop letters like "pseud[o][a]pocalypse" and often in a way that ends up sounding clunky and weird even in English. Can't think of other examples now. Brain going to sleep…

English speakers even mix latin and greek roots!

From a t-shirt I saw once: "I am against polyamory! It should either be multiamory or polyphilia!"

Re: Pseudpocalypse

#72

Post by Schlagbohrer »

MassPikeMike wrote: post #56

Perhaps remarkably, the US intelligence community is funding work on this problem in the open, as part of IARPA HIATUS [1]. The program's initial phase is winding down now, so some of the performers' papers ought to be hitting the ArXiV before too many more months. [1] https://www.iarpa.gov/research-programs/hiatus

[dead]

Re: Pseudpocalypse

#73

Post by Schlagbohrer »

thomassmith65 wrote: post #63
GMoromisato wrote: post #58

I know I'm a weirdo, but I've been posting under my own name since the 90s. I guess I always figured that nobody gives a shit who I am.

There's plenty of other people on the internet with identities worth stealing. You'll probably be fine. Still, it's not a lottery I want to play.

What happened to the first 64 thomassmiths?

Re: Pseudpocalypse

#74

Post by Schlagbohrer »

King-Aaron wrote: post #55
totetsu wrote: post #53

To achieve this level of total surveillance it would trillions and trillions of dollars to be invested in a massive roll out of data centers. I just dont see it happening.

> I just dont see it happening. It is though.

whoosh

Or to quote Drax the Destroyer: "A joke would never fly over my head! My reflexes are too good. I would catch it. :-/ "

Re: Pseudpocalypse

#75

Post by Schlagbohrer »

fragmede wrote: post #66
strken wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking this. Why not just lie? Come up with personas, stack them on other personas, and eventually you're pretending to be a 23 year old Asian man from California who is pretending to be a 50 year old New Zealand carpenter and half the bits are muddled.

What are you writing about? The real person is going to write about what they know, so when the topic of housing comes up, and they pick New York City to discuss zoning restrictions, sure it's possible they're in New Zealand or California, but it makes more sense to assume the user behind the keyboard is in NYC. The question is, for what purposes is the user trying to be unmasked? In the world we live in, the entirel…

This is why I follow subreddits for cities I have never been to.

Re: Pseudpocalypse

#76

Post by negura »

those deanonymization vectors (stylometry and input device biometrics) have been known for a while in the privacy community. re: stylometry, AI rewriting will be useful once it becomes fast & cheap. but research shows that trying to emulate another writing style is already effective. for input device biometrics, there is the kloak algorithm. and which ships with qubesos https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-gui-daemon/pull/149

Re: Pseudpocalypse

#77

Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

Exoristos wrote: post #50
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #31

"Pseudpocalypse"... why not "pseudocalypse" or "pseudoapocalypse"? As an aside, it's always surprising to see how English speakers split Greek words like "Apocalypse". That is to say, they always split them in the middle of Greek syllables, or just drop letters like "pseud[o][a]pocalypse" and often in a way that ends up sounding clunky and weird even in English. Can't think of other examples now. Brain going to sleep…

Let's see, expanded it's "the (or an) apocalypse of pseudonyms." In Greek, this would roughly be "ἀποκάλυψις ὧν ψευδωνῠ́μων." It's not impossible for a genitive like this to become a word, possibly "ἀποκάλυψευδώνῠμοι" (think of "φιλέλλην") -- although it's a little fanciful. There may even be precedent for a construct that puts "ψευδώνῠμοι" first. But ultimately I agree that the word the article offers seems tortured…

Πολυτονικό! Haha! But yeah, αποκαλυψευδώνυμοι/α sounds better, but it would work even less well in English.

Re: Pseudpocalypse

#78

Post by inigyou »

tarpitt wrote: post #48
inigyou wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

probably means publicly identifying an individual

It takes many bits to identify an individual. Let's say I offhandedly mention your email in this comment, for example, like we had an out of band conversation somewhere else. Then, someone takes that email and links it to another forum where they find your phone number. Then another person looks up that phone number in a phone book. Then another person finds your github account from the email associated with your PGP…

Laws aren't cryptography. They aren't all or nothing. Making something illegal has a chilling effect on that thing, even if not 100% enforceable. It would be illegal to try to hack the NSA, so I'm scared to do it, even through Tor.

Re: Pseudpocalypse

#80

Post by cestith »

tarpitt wrote: post #41
inigyou wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

downvoted because the government doing stuff is communism

I don't have the ability to downvote, and I disagree that the downvote should be used, but I disagree with your disagreement about the downvote. The proposal that seems to infringe on free speech, but mostly I take issue because there just isn't really a precedent for what such a thing would look like. What constitutes doxxing? It is easy to accidentally doxx someone by mentioning some offhand fact in conversation, b…

Free speech repeatedly has been held by the US Supreme Court to include anonymous speech. There are also free association rights involved. https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/anonymous-speech/

While the protection of anonymity is not absolute and must be balanced against other factors, the same is true of free speech in general. You don’t have a right to defraud people, defame them, directly incite a riot, or to manipulate markets with false statements for example. You likely don’t have a right to create a deepfake and represent it as the words and actions of another person without their permission.

Deanonymization can be used for harassment, stalking, prosecution, ad targeting, serving civil lawsuits, criminal investigation, and any number of other purposes both benign and nefarious. It’s honestly akin to stalking itself when it’s done to a private citizen by a private citizen.

Post reply on HN