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Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by wiether »

1659447091 wrote: post #65
alexpotato wrote: post #23

Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

Why not group emails? There's a guy that runs multiple sports teams at a local recreation center, in multiple adult divisions (wide age/culture rage), and he has been using email to great effect for over a decade that I have known him. I get 2-3 weekly emails about teams that need a sub for a game and those spots continue to fill up quickly. He probably has the majority of regulars (in the hundreds) at that sports ce…

I've never seen "group emails" working, even when amongst technical people.

Part of it is just how emails work, part of it is how each clients work, part of it is people not knowing/caring.

  You'll have:

  - the guy that don't use the group email address as recipient, but personal email address 
  - the guy that change the subject which starts a new thread/discussion
  - the guy that include all previous emails in their answer
  - the guy with a signature that takes two screens to scroll
  - the guy with an awful text font/color
  - the guy that CC their whole address book, including the group email address, for personal stuff
  - ...
I can go on. I went through this mess many times during the years, in various contexts; always the same result.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by jjav »

1659447091 wrote: post #65
alexpotato wrote: post #23

Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

Why not group emails? There's a guy that runs multiple sports teams at a local recreation center, in multiple adult divisions (wide age/culture rage), and he has been using email to great effect for over a decade that I have known him. I get 2-3 weekly emails about teams that need a sub for a game and those spots continue to fill up quickly. He probably has the majority of regulars (in the hundreds) at that sports ce…

> Why not group emails?

Yes, email is the absolute best for opimal reach. All the proprietary platforms are inherently fragmented and gatekeeped by their corporations. Trying to find a common denominator is hard. Email is standard, not owned by anyone and thus universal.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by LoganDark »

wiether wrote: post #71
1659447091 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not group emails? There's a guy that runs multiple sports teams at a local recreation center, in multiple adult divisions (wide age/culture rage), and he has been using email to great effect for over a decade that I have known him. I get 2-3 weekly emails about teams that need a sub for a game and those spots continue to fill up quickly. He probably has the majority of regulars (in the hundreds) at that sports ce…

I've never seen "group emails" working, even when amongst technical people. Part of it is just how emails work, part of it is how each clients work, part of it is people not knowing/caring. You'll have: - the guy that don't use the group email address as recipient, but personal email address - the guy that change the subject which starts a new thread/discussion - the guy that include all previous emails in their answ…

Subject lines shouldn't be relied on to identify emails. In-Reply-To / References exists in most clients if the mailing list specifies a Message-ID...

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by guerby »

1659447091 wrote: post #65
alexpotato wrote: post #23

Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

Why not group emails? There's a guy that runs multiple sports teams at a local recreation center, in multiple adult divisions (wide age/culture rage), and he has been using email to great effect for over a decade that I have known him. I get 2-3 weekly emails about teams that need a sub for a game and those spots continue to fill up quickly. He probably has the majority of regulars (in the hundreds) at that sports ce…

discourse combines web forum and email, people can use either one as they see fit.

https://github.com/discourse/discourse

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by jjav »

joe_mamba wrote: post #47
ericbarrett wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But which one - SMS/RCS? iMessage? WhatsApp? Signal? Telegram? Discord?

I have Messager app fatigue at this point (where I live). - Doctors offices and official services use SMS. - Some of my close family and friends use Signal (on my pressure). - The distant boomers use Facebook Messenger - With the younger people they use Snapchat. - Almost everyone else in the country uses Whatsapp as that's the dominant messaging app. - My friends who live in Berlin use Telegram - Online communities…

> God I miss the 2000s.

Exactly! Having to check 27 different places for messages (also add individual sites like linkedin, etc, where people message), it is completely ridiculous.

Just send me email. It's universal, standard, no corporation owns it (thus no corportation can shut me out unlike facebook or all the proprietary solutions).

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by brudgers »

1659447091 wrote: post #65
alexpotato wrote: post #23

Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

Why not group emails? There's a guy that runs multiple sports teams at a local recreation center, in multiple adult divisions (wide age/culture rage), and he has been using email to great effect for over a decade that I have known him. I get 2-3 weekly emails about teams that need a sub for a game and those spots continue to fill up quickly. He probably has the majority of regulars (in the hundreds) at that sports ce…

Why not group emails?

Email is a push technology. And the receiver has to manage their inbox for the sender’s enthusiasm.

2-3 weekly emails

A web page could update in real time. It would be more work for the sender. And less work for everyone else.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by [deleted] »

CatMustard wrote: post #46
ericbarrett wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But which one - SMS/RCS? iMessage? WhatsApp? Signal? Telegram? Discord?

Funny, every time I've joined a new group for dancing or art classes or DnD or anything it's always 100% of the time a WhatsApp group, no questions asked. (This is in Ireland). Never occurred to me that Americans wouldn't have a common group chat app everyone uses. Do Americans not all use iMessage, since pretty much everybody has an iPhone there?

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Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by brudgers »

LoganDark wrote: post #73
wiether wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never seen "group emails" working, even when amongst technical people. Part of it is just how emails work, part of it is how each clients work, part of it is people not knowing/caring. You'll have: - the guy that don't use the group email address as recipient, but personal email address - the guy that change the subject which starts a new thread/discussion - the guy that include all previous emails in their answ…

Subject lines shouldn't be relied on to identify emails. In-Reply-To / References exists in most clients if the mailing list specifies a Message-ID...

Subject lines have always been the best way and most emails could be nothing but subject line if blank bodies were allowed.

But because subject lines are more work and people who love sending email tend to love it because it is very low effort, the venn of email senders and those who write subject lines is small.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by mmsimanga »

alexpotato wrote: post #23

Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

South African here. Just about all notifications have moved to WhatsApp. Most school classes have a group for the parents, extended family group, immediate family group, residents association group, high school classmates group, gym class group, home town group ... the list goes on. Sounds like a lot but most groups tend to have few messages.
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