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Re: Memorizing session transcripts isn't useful

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Post by pr337h4m »

general_reveal wrote: post #36
dofm wrote: post #9

Blog posts like this just blow me away. > I believed this so strongly that my company built an entire product around this concept. I used to tell folks that "session transcripts were the new oil," that they were more valuable than the code itself. > […] > We don't really write code by hand anymore. Honestly, isn't this just influencer spam? What possible value is there in reading about people who used to have product…

Look man, I’ve got a MMO that I’m working on that’s set in 2014 where everyone is a programmer in SV (might call it World of Legacy ). It’s a period piece. I NEED as much blog training data of this type so that my NPCs can talk in a historically accurate way (god bless Medium.com, a historical treasure trove of a bygone medieval era). It’s gonna be a living breathing world, you see. You’re going to be like “omg, this…

I'm pretty sure there's an element of sarcasm here, but if this game is real, it does sound super promising.

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Post by slopinthebag »

estearum wrote: post #33
dofm wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a freelancer recovering from severe burnout so the answer is a sort of irrelevant no. I'm trying to rebuild my life so I am in an experimenting and learning phase rather than a massive coding phase, and most of my code work is maintenance of things I have built. That which I do code, I am still coding by hand, though I am dealing with other people's Claude output and I am really unimpressed by it. It's often rat…

> That which I do code, I am still coding by hand, though I am dealing with other people's Claude output and I am really unimpressed by it. It's often rather crass. Unfortunately the point of code is rarely to impress people (certainly not other engineers) or to avoid being "crass." 99.99% of code exists to achieve business outcomes, and velocity matters a lot in many contexts. A lot more than elegance or impressiven…

It doesn’t matter what materials or techniques you use to build a house. 99.99% of construction exists to achieve business outcomes, and velocity matters a lot more than using the right materials or techniques.

Of course the house must pass safety inspections and stuff, but the materials and techniques don’t matter one bit for that. All that matters is you achieve the desired outcome, and I will ignore the glaring fact that you achieve the desired outcome by using the right materials and techniques. The materials and techniques don’t matter, just the outcome.

Re: Memorizing session transcripts isn't useful

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Post by dofm »

andai wrote: post #26
LPisGood wrote: post #16

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I have to ask: do you still write a lot of code yourself? I and most people I know do not.

I force myself to do it at least once a week, you know, like cardio. Keeps the doctor away.

Picard should have been a bergamot grower, not a winemaker.

Re: Memorizing session transcripts isn't useful

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Post by jenniferhooley »

dofm wrote: post #21
LPisGood wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to ask: do you still write a lot of code yourself? I and most people I know do not.

I am a freelancer recovering from severe burnout so the answer is a sort of irrelevant no. I'm trying to rebuild my life so I am in an experimenting and learning phase rather than a massive coding phase, and most of my code work is maintenance of things I have built. That which I do code, I am still coding by hand, though I am dealing with other people's Claude output and I am really unimpressed by it. It's often rat…

Programmers can use smaller models like deepseek v4 flash for 98% of the same productivity as SOTA models and cost (true cost) around $10-$30 a month. So I doubt most people who heavily use them are too concerned. It's only vibe/hobby coders who really need SOTA and they probably don't think about it much.

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Post by qup »

AlotOfReading wrote: post #45
LPisGood wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to ask: do you still write a lot of code yourself? I and most people I know do not.

Of course? I'm still better than sonnet or opus, just slower and much more expensive. Sometimes it takes me a day or more to find the one line fix or abstraction necessary, while claude can hammer through a hundred line fix in under an hour.

Sounds like your definition of better is pretty narrow.

Quick and cheap are two of the three fabled: "Fast, cheap, and good: choose two"

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Post by michaelchisari »

Arainach wrote: post #66
estearum wrote: post #44

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"Code quality" encompasses a lot of dimensions, one of which is impressing your colleagues, and many of which there's virtually no reason to care about now.

On the contrary, it's more important than ever. With ever more code being generated, it's essential that the code be understandable and maintainable - by human and machine.

And quality is the new differentiator when everyone can generate slop.

Re: Memorizing session transcripts isn't useful

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Post by estearum »

slopinthebag wrote: post #72
estearum wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That which I do code, I am still coding by hand, though I am dealing with other people's Claude output and I am really unimpressed by it. It's often rather crass. Unfortunately the point of code is rarely to impress people (certainly not other engineers) or to avoid being "crass." 99.99% of code exists to achieve business outcomes, and velocity matters a lot in many contexts. A lot more than elegance or impressiven…

It doesn’t matter what materials or techniques you use to build a house. 99.99% of construction exists to achieve business outcomes, and velocity matters a lot more than using the right materials or techniques. Of course the house must pass safety inspections and stuff, but the materials and techniques don’t matter one bit for that. All that matters is you achieve the desired outcome, and I will ignore the glaring fa…

No the materials and techniques matter a lot. This is why we need to build houses with sticks and jute cord, just like we always have. It's vital also that we paint our special symbols above the door to ward off the spirits.

It's insane to me that you're implying we could build houses with pre-fabricated materials or pneumatic nail guns and still somehow "have houses?" No sticks/jute cord and special symbols, then no house.

Re: Memorizing session transcripts isn't useful

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Post by whateveracct »

general_reveal wrote: post #43
dofm wrote: post #41

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I … I… don't want to play this, thanks ;-)

It’s the only way you’ll ever be able to pretend to be a programmer again though.

so far, i just keep writing by hand and keep getting paid for it. weird.
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