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Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by jdlshore »

Sammi wrote: post #45
drevil-v2 wrote: post #29

The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

I'm a small software business owner in Europe. I have to assume my competition is willing to pay for any business advantage they can get. And so I also have to pay for the SOTA model, whatever it is.

What concrete business advantage are you getting from LLMs?

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

brazukadev wrote: post #66
flyingshelf wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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that is exactly why downvote exist.

That is part of why downvotes exist. They also exist for personal attacks, off topic tangents, posts that don't make sense, trolling, advertisements, AI generated content, and other such things we don't want to see here.

But "downvote for disagreement" is a legitimate use. I personally tried to tell someone that it wasn't, and I got corrected by dang.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by kcb »

dzonga wrote: post #43

Chinese models brought the building down. are export controls the right thing ? Probably not. but the american economy is over-exposed on "A.I" - the capital expenditure, while the Chinese are proving you don't need to spend tons of capital to get close to the frontier. the Chinese have better building capacity & cheaper energy. that means the market has to correct at some point.

You really think China doesn't have massive amounts of capital expenditure related to AI? They're actively bootstrapping an entire chip industry.... https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-prepares-295-billi...

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by nickandbro »

nlh wrote: post #5

Here's a copy of the letter that Commerce sent to Anthropic (note who it'a NOT addressed to...) Source: https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/2072103733715194048?s=20 ------- June 30, 2026 Tom Brown Chief Compute Officer Anthropic 548 Market Street San Francisco, CA 94104 Dear Mr. Brown: Since the issuance of my previous letters, dated June 12, 2026 and June 26, 2026, Anthropic has taken steps in close coordination with…

Jeff is now going to have to change his number. Can’t imagine all the calls or messages he must be getting now

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by villish »

dzonga wrote: post #43

Chinese models brought the building down. are export controls the right thing ? Probably not. but the american economy is over-exposed on "A.I" - the capital expenditure, while the Chinese are proving you don't need to spend tons of capital to get close to the frontier. the Chinese have better building capacity & cheaper energy. that means the market has to correct at some point.

It's a little too later for export controls. Chinese models have made massive gains through legitimate research but also being trained on billions of tokens from Claude/GPT. The politicians have no idea how to stop that from happening so they pull the only lever they know.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by adastra22 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #54
ls612 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic claims the only difference is the draconian bans on cybersecurity and biology queries.

The Sol benchmarks show Fable has slightly lower performance compared to Mythos. https://openai.com/index/previewing-gpt-5-6-sol/ I assume they did something to the model itself. Either way, I do hope they lift those draconian bans. Using the model was a terrible experience because of the constant downgrades. I didn't manage to harden my own projects before Fable got banned.

The session reverts to opus if it trips a limiter. Is the benchmark detecting and correcting for that?

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by vlian2088 »

>Anthropic has taken steps in close coordination with the U.S. government to address the risks associated with Claude Mythos 5 and Claude Fable 5. Among other things, Anthropic has agreed to proactively detect and address security risks associated with the models; to work diligently with the U.S. government on protocols and standards and releases for Mythos, Fable, and future models; and to inform the U.S. government of any malicious activity.

ah, I see. so, Chinese models are getting banned soon.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by tmpz22 »

dakolli wrote: post #70
stavarotti wrote: post #55

I just finished reading Incorruptible and a central theme (Anthropic is a case study) is that trust is singularly the most important currency a business has. The past few weeks have done wonders for Anthropic’s marketing but just as much if not more damage to the trust factor. Businesses will continue to use Anthropic because it’s the default and accessible where it matters (AWS, Azure, GCP, Databricks, Snowflake, et…

Most people don't care about trust anymore, we live in a low trust society where this is to be expected. People gladly line up to be poisoned by fast food restaurants and trade 1/3 of their life for pieces of paper on a daily basis.

Silicon valley may be a low trust society but I havent given up hope on the rest of it yet.
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