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Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand
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Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand
#72I saw a post on the GrapheneOS forum of someone who was accosted by Google with this requirement, so they are certainly using it. It's interesting the parallels of Google's recaptcha and Cloudflare turnstile. Cloudflare is free, no image selector, allows VPNs and Tor for the most part, just 0 click with a good ip reputation and 1 click with a bad one. Recaptcha is paid, trains waymos, sucks millions of hours of human…
> just 0 click with a good ip reputation and 1 click with a bad one.
Or it goes on forever without passing, which can also happen, and then you simply can't proceed. It also really does not work over TOR in my experience.
I've had it happen a bunch of times, but Recaptch usually falls back to the image challenge if I can't pass V3. It might force me to solve several of them, but it eventually lets me pass.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not possible to buy a 4 trillion public company
I'm struggling not to be sarcastic here, as I'm not quite stoked about Canadian Tire owning most of what's left of Hudson's Bay Company. It's pretty undeniable proof that age and revenue will not make a company immortal or invulnerable though.
Hudson mismanagement was legendary. Their business expansion into the Netherlands was so terrible that it's almost as if they wanted to fail.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
The IRS wanted a full 3d scan of my face to prove identity AFTER I already had a working account used every year for the past 3+ years. They asked for feedback after I canceled the login, I gave very candid feedback in a form. Then they asked if I would give an interview. You know why I wanted to log in? To claim a $7 refund. They ended up mailing it.
I wonder if the identity requirements are lowered if you owe them money?
Yes actually, I've seen both. It makes sense because nobody would impersonate me to give them money.
I also make sure they never owe me. Otherwise I get delayed money, ID thieves have another reason to target me, thieves might actually get it, and the IRS might not give it. And the last thing happened to me once with a large refund, for a year, because of a pure logistics error on their end that took me a ton of effort to get them to fix, and it was kinda related to ID. Identity situation is much cleaner if I just pay the IRS.
Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand
#75Doesn't surprise me at all and seems like a good solution to the problem of human verification. It won't take long for AI to catch up to that, but this captcha method might hold for a couple of months. Not sure what problem everybody here is having with this. The alternative would be device certificate stuff (ala did Apple sign for this being a proper Apple device?). Having to shake your hand sounds a lot more privac…
I get why they're doing this. They're out of options, and nobody here has proposed something better. But I'm not out of options, I'll just choose not to use any website that asks for this.
Would also accept having to pay a small amount of cryptocurrency to use a site/service, but that's only suitable for DDoS or mass bot protection, not proof of being human.
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#76Not gonna happen. Ever. If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. The last time I needed some web was my electricity company - sent them a ticket with a complaint. They replied with some bs like "your browser is simply not supported" so I kept sending them the same ticket over and over again until I got a real response and it seems they decided to change the system. To use my favorite quote: That…
If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse.
A friend of mine recently tried to get a payment from an insurance policy. But the New York Life web site wouldn't work right.
She ended up talking to someone on the phone eventually and they told her it's her fault, because Safari isn't supported. Only Chrome and Edge.
Her choice was to install Chrome, or walk away from $35,000.
You may "just refuse," but she installed the browser and got her money.
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#77Doesn't surprise me at all and seems like a good solution to the problem of human verification. It won't take long for AI to catch up to that, but this captcha method might hold for a couple of months. Not sure what problem everybody here is having with this. The alternative would be device certificate stuff (ala did Apple sign for this being a proper Apple device?). Having to shake your hand sounds a lot more privac…
>this captcha method might hold for a couple of months So stripping away user privacy even more is justified for implementing an already obsolete verification method?
It's not already obsolete
Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand
#78Not gonna happen. Ever. If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. The last time I needed some web was my electricity company - sent them a ticket with a complaint. They replied with some bs like "your browser is simply not supported" so I kept sending them the same ticket over and over again until I got a real response and it seems they decided to change the system. To use my favorite quote: That…
If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. A friend of mine recently tried to get a payment from an insurance policy. But the New York Life web site wouldn't work right. She ended up talking to someone on the phone eventually and they told her it's her fault, because Safari isn't supported. Only Chrome and Edge. Her choice was to install Chrome, or walk away from $35,000. You may "just refuse," bu…
Why can't normal people send companies to collections for refusing to pay debts?
Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I’ve already warned my discord friends that the moment I have to show my ID I’m out of there without a goodbye. It sucks, but I just can’t compromise further. Personal ID’s are an absolute red line.
Ahem, plenty of Discord alternatives out there ;) Nothing wrong with making a backup or bridge!
I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Discord is simply not that important.
Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand
#80Not gonna happen. Ever. If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. The last time I needed some web was my electricity company - sent them a ticket with a complaint. They replied with some bs like "your browser is simply not supported" so I kept sending them the same ticket over and over again until I got a real response and it seems they decided to change the system. To use my favorite quote: That…
If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. A friend of mine recently tried to get a payment from an insurance policy. But the New York Life web site wouldn't work right. She ended up talking to someone on the phone eventually and they told her it's her fault, because Safari isn't supported. Only Chrome and Edge. Her choice was to install Chrome, or walk away from $35,000. You may "just refuse," bu…
Or you resort to legally binding snail mail.