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Re: Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

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Post by pjc50 »

cedws wrote: post #17
globular-toast wrote: post #2

I'm considering the same thing. I've done the "contact your MP" thing, but it's a waste of time. You just receive a pre-written letter from some minimum wage assistant (or maybe just a bot). It's either that or I just consider the internet dead and move on. It's nothing like it was 20 years ago anyway. There are other things to do. Many books to read and places to go. We had something really cool and we were lucky to…

It’s hard to feel any enthusiasm for democracy watching things you disagree with being pushed through and having no power to stop it. I signed the petition to reverse the OSA and all we got was a canned response. I’ve come to the conclusion the only thing you can really do is leave when you disagree with the direction of your country, but of course not everyone has the ability to do that.

I do think people should consider trying a bit harder to change the opinions of their fellow citizens. Yes, this is a lot of work; yes, I've mostly delegated this myself by paying money to the Open Rights Group. But if you start from the position that everyone else is a newspaper-brainwashed idiot then of course it's going to look a bit dark.

I also think there's more of what I'd call "grassroots British libertarianism" than you'd expect. It's just in tension with Daily Mail-ism, often in the same people. They just don't want onerous rules applied to them.

Re: Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

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Post by mschuster91 »

farnsworthfusor wrote: post #44
mschuster91 wrote: post #28

> And so, for the first time, I am considering locating something (perhaps a WireGuard node, or a SOCKS proxy, or a recursive DNS server / DNS proxy, or perhaps all of them) somewhere on the Internet outside the UK, so that I can route some traffic through that, as needed, to maintain my access to the web. Good luck, it will probably impossible as admins fed up with AI scraper bots increasingly choose to outright bla…

What's dirty about it?

Companies tell their customers (i.e. people who wish to bypass streaming service region restrictions) that they "ethically source IP addresses". The people who provide the IP addresses (i.e. people installing f2p games on their phones or smart TVs that come with the VPN exit gateway SDK) don't know that, because no one reads the T&C.

In the end, both are deceived. The customer thinks there are no ethical issues attached to their VPN provider, the ones whose IP addresses get abused don't even know what's going on.

Re: Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

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Post by pSYoniK »

I have submitted this before, but for those maybe a bit uncomfortable with setting up a VPS to act as an exit node for Wireguard, my article covers most things:

https://psyonik.tech/posts/a-guide-for-wireguard-vpn-setup-w...

For this particular use case, I would probably suggest something like OVH/Scaleway as they have nodes in France so physical distance between UK and "somewhere else" is low which will affect latency. If you're willing to wait longer and go further, I recommend Infomaniak (Switzerland - they have nodes in Geneva I think/Zurich). Hetzner (a crow favorite) hasn't been that good for me while I was in the UK, I was getting dropped packets even after switching a few VPSes, but might've just been something temporary.

Re: Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

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Post by PeterStuer »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #65
PeterStuer wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you believe this, then this was always the case. LLM's only made it cheaper and more accesible.

Sorry I don't understand, what am I believing that has always been the case?

That you could reimplement a software and then be license free. Or did I read you wrong?

Re: Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

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Post by matthewmorgan »

pjc50 wrote: post #71
cedws wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s hard to feel any enthusiasm for democracy watching things you disagree with being pushed through and having no power to stop it. I signed the petition to reverse the OSA and all we got was a canned response. I’ve come to the conclusion the only thing you can really do is leave when you disagree with the direction of your country, but of course not everyone has the ability to do that.

I do think people should consider trying a bit harder to change the opinions of their fellow citizens. Yes, this is a lot of work; yes, I've mostly delegated this myself by paying money to the Open Rights Group. But if you start from the position that everyone else is a newspaper-brainwashed idiot then of course it's going to look a bit dark. I also think there's more of what I'd call "grassroots British libertariani…

Do you ever spend time thinking about your own opinions, or just other people's?

Re: Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

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Post by marcus_holmes »

PeterStuer wrote: post #74
marcus_holmes wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry I don't understand, what am I believing that has always been the case?

That you could reimplement a software and then be license free. Or did I read you wrong?

That's a separate thing. I mean, valid, and a good point to raise, but I wasn't raising it.

I was more talking about the weird space we're getting into where code is completely open, because it was generated and cannot have any copyright protection, but also unpublished, and so effectively proprietary. The opposite of OSS, where code is available but protected by copyright-based licenses.

Re: Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

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Post by pjc50 »

matthewmorgan wrote: post #75
pjc50 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do think people should consider trying a bit harder to change the opinions of their fellow citizens. Yes, this is a lot of work; yes, I've mostly delegated this myself by paying money to the Open Rights Group. But if you start from the position that everyone else is a newspaper-brainwashed idiot then of course it's going to look a bit dark. I also think there's more of what I'd call "grassroots British libertariani…

Do you ever spend time thinking about your own opinions, or just other people's?

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Re: Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

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Post by account42 »

lokar wrote: post #49
bargainbin wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incorrect, I don't have social media and tell them as such, it's never an issue.

Are they asking? I know they said they would, it I’ve not seen reports of it happening

They have been asking for well over a year at least for ESTA with GitHub being one possible pre-defined social media type in the form.

Re: Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

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Post by leoedin »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #52
cedws wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s hard to feel any enthusiasm for democracy watching things you disagree with being pushed through and having no power to stop it. I signed the petition to reverse the OSA and all we got was a canned response. I’ve come to the conclusion the only thing you can really do is leave when you disagree with the direction of your country, but of course not everyone has the ability to do that.

This is what protest is for/about. If enough people feel strongly about it to go onto the street and wave placards, that starts getting noticed and has to be acknowledged. Of course, the UK (and others) have started making protests illegal, because they are doing things that we should feel strongly enough about to go and wave placards at them.

The problem I've found is that enough people don't feel strongly about it.

I've had plenty of conversations recently where people say "yeah, but social media is harming kids. Banning it is good". People broadly see the headline "think of the children" and think, "yup, let's protect children".

To me, there's all sorts of downsides - the death of small discussion forums, pushing interesting online experiences out of the reach of teenagers, the creeping surveillance and, worst of all, the complete end of the open internet (when inevitably it doesn't actually work). But most non-tech people just don't see that.

The currently in place age verificaton system is a joke. It's trivial to circumvent them - not just via VPN, but also because there's countless websites that just don't care. The social media ban will bring more of the same - and then they'll have to ban VPNs and bring in website firewalls.

Who wins? The established tech companies, who have big enough legal departments to comply with increasing red tape. How is a new social network going to legitimately compete with Facebook now?

But when I say all this to people I know, they just don't see it. Most people are not tech people.

Re: Pondering routing more of my traffic via nodes outside the UK

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Post by fennecfoxy »

benj111 wrote: post #68
h4kunamata wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Personally I think ipad as babysitter is more to blame, but until the proper studies are done it's all just speculation. Proper study?? Look around us, kids are talking to ChatGPT instead of running, playing, instead of being kids. Kids cannot speak and yet have a tablet to interact with, by adulthood those kids are cooked. Teens at school can't read, they have been using ChatGPT to cheat exams. If somebody tells me…

>Look around us, kids are talking to ChatGPT instead of running, playing, instead of being kids Isn't that a symptom of other things? I'm an elder 'millenial' playing out was already decreasing when all we had was a nes and 4 channels on TV. Unfortunately now we have to 'protect' kids from the dangers outside. Which necessarily means them spending time inside.

Millennials never spent like >6-8 hours a day on phones doing nothing productive.

Yes, as adults we now spend loads of time in our places of work on devices but generally in the pursuits of doing productive things.

And while I haven't looked up the stats, I don't feel like it's exceedingly more dangerous for kids to play outside today than it was back in the 00's, 90's, 90's etc. I just feel as though we're more aware of the dangers of what _could_ happen to kids - all of which is a facet of the media/social media pressure and scaremongering.

Plus there are still loads of feral kids allowed to roam around and be little shits anyway.

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