From PGP to Mythos: a brief history of export controls that didn't stop anyone

Post by himata4113 » Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 11:05 AM UTC

rdtsc wrote: post #16

himata4113 wrote: post #7

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I think "jailbreaking" fable to match opus 4.8 capabilities is not noteworthy. Fable from my experience is not as eager to find vulnerabilities compared to what they describe in their mythos research.

Wonder if context size would matter. Find and fix “bugs” in Linux kernel or find and fix “bugs” in this short snippet of code. I would try a file by file approach first. I don’t know how much we want to believe the “reports”. But there are probably a few other tricks they didn’t expose. If these are pre/post processing guardrails I could see something like “fix bugs” actually working.

Post by HDBaseT » Mon, Jun 22, 2026, 2:27 AM UTC

trollbridge wrote: post #41

epolanski wrote: post #9

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How so? 80% of Anthropic's revenue comes from outside the United States. There's no way to justify high capex, and US-personnel only research labs and pretend to keep the lead in AI at the same time. You either compete square and fair, or you're gonna stay behind.

Holy cow. It's that high?

Post by achierius » Wed, Jun 24, 2026, 4:39 AM UTC

sroussey wrote: post #43

achierius wrote: post #42

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I want to put this charitably, but you come out swinging by saying this is "over hyped"... You clearly don't work in a role dealing with attacks from these models. They've changed the game, and for the worse. Capabilities that used to be available only to nation-state attackers are legitimately commodified, or nearly so.

Better get used to it. Just like encryption being available to all, it was terrible for some. Local models will catch up and then you won’t be able to legally download them. I’m guessing DeepSeek 5 will be illegal to download even if it’s only opus 4.x level when it’s released.