Having no map is weird. Wikipedia has one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stad_Ship_Tunnel
Am I going mad or does the artist's concept look like the water is going downhill
count the fingers?
Norway greenlights first full-scale ship tunnel
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Having no map is weird. Yes, a failure of both the journalist and the editor. Sadly, this kind of failure is all too common. I encounter articles that often omit a photo of the "thing" the article is describing. This (no photo) might have made some sense fifty years ago in the heyday of paper print where including a photo was much more work. But today, for HTML publishing, it is just an indication of failure on the…
50 years ago was 1976. Pretty sure there was no particular problem incuding photos or illustrations in paper journalism at that time. Maybe for very low-budget newsletters it would have been.
That depends. For the most modern presses (1970s modern) it was no problem but many small newspapers still used the linotype and a press that couldn't handle pictures without much effort.
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#73boondoggle
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#74Only 4 years of work to be ready? That sounds pretty optimistic ( crying in German )
Norway's rock are not bad to dig in. The rock is hard but we know how to work with it and that same hard means you don't have the safety problems of a collapsing roof to worry about while digging.
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#75It will be interesting to see if it’s ever completed. I imagine dealing with ship fumes in a tunnel will be a challenge. And, I’m curious what the plan is when a ship runs into the sides or breaks down halfway through.
Super cool project nonetheless. I hope it succeeds.
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#76Re: Norway greenlights first full-scale ship tunnel
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Having no map is weird. Yes, a failure of both the journalist and the editor. Sadly, this kind of failure is all too common. I encounter articles that often omit a photo of the "thing" the article is describing. This (no photo) might have made some sense fifty years ago in the heyday of paper print where including a photo was much more work. But today, for HTML publishing, it is just an indication of failure on the…
50 years ago was 1976. Pretty sure there was no particular problem incuding photos or illustrations in paper journalism at that time. Maybe for very low-budget newsletters it would have been.
I think USA Today (1980) was considered repulsive not just because it was colorized and a newspaper but simply because it put more space/resources into illustrations than was considered tasteful. A typical paper would reserve photographers and illustrators for front page and significant stories.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ask a Norwegian to dig a tunnel and they will turn into a gopher on meth. We are the undisputed champions of tunnels in terms of tunnel density. Show us a piece of rock and we'll put a big hole in it. However. Ask a Norwegian to fix a piece of road and you will be staring at a hole in the ground for 4 years while people will take turns leaning on a shovel in that hole while surrounded by at least 4 different categori…
The US will take a 3 year project, bid it out as a 10 year project to "save money", and cancel it at year 20 for cost overruns and because it's not projected to be operational until year 30.
I see you've discovered California high speed rail
Re: Norway greenlights first full-scale ship tunnel
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of the Norway's Western coast (basically the extent of the country) is mountainous so building infrastructure there inevitably involves blasting the rock. At the same time the country is huge, bigger than Germany or the UK. So naturally a lot of tunnels. This one a bit special: most of the boat traffic through it are meant to be ferries so it is to be commissioned and managed by the National Road Authority. At t…
Are you in the lisp company? If so, how is it? Hard to get people? Or is it a geek-magnet?
It's tricky. Lotsa nerds in Norway who are interested but not that many available Lispers who are in Bergen area. And our work more or less requires physical presence. We're considering now to hire someone generally good and retrain, although it makes for quite a bit longer onboarding.
Re: Norway greenlights first full-scale ship tunnel
#80It will be interesting to see if it’s ever completed. I imagine dealing with ship fumes in a tunnel will be a challenge. And, I’m curious what the plan is when a ship runs into the sides or breaks down halfway through. Super cool project nonetheless. I hope it succeeds.
>I imagine dealing with ship fumes in a tunnel will be a challenge.
Maybe the tunnel will be limited to electric ferries? This is Norway after all.