I've been driving roundabouts for decades, and think they're great - they really help with traffic flow. I've never found them confusing. I had to drive this specific Kirkland roundabout the other day, and ended up missing my offramp and going in completely the wrong direction. It's the most confusing roundabout I've ever seen.
There appear to be many such peanut roundabouts around the world, many of them in the US[1] [1] https://panethos.wordpress.com/2024/06/14/working-list-peanu...
Kirkland Roundabouts
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I live moments away from this roundabout. It's confusing. Single-lane roundabouts are really straightforward. You're either clear to enter, or you're not. Adding lanes makes it far more confusing. I consider myself, you know, pretty smart. Not stupid, at least. But I almost sideswiped someone in this roundabout the other day. Years of driving experience gave me an intuition that the middle lane would not cross over t…
> Single-lane roundabouts are really straightforward Like the Arc de Triomphe roundabout? :) If it had lane marking there would apparently be 10 tracks around the circle. What makes it seem crazy is cars entering have right of way. The reason it works seems to be French attitude. Cars entering do their thing, and cars already going around do their thing (and just have to avoid anyone on their right).
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#73Roundabouts are almost always a bad idea. Thank God they are mostly a European thing.
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I live moments away from this roundabout. It's confusing. Single-lane roundabouts are really straightforward. You're either clear to enter, or you're not. Adding lanes makes it far more confusing. I consider myself, you know, pretty smart. Not stupid, at least. But I almost sideswiped someone in this roundabout the other day. Years of driving experience gave me an intuition that the middle lane would not cross over t…
I too live nearby The lanes are quite narrow, and the outer curb is deceptive - there’s a 1” edge with a curved curb behind it making it look wider than it actually is. Scraping along that edge will push cars into the center of the road. There will be a lot of minor accidents here due to the road design. One other second order effect - people are getting used to roundabouts here now, but nearby are ‘traffic circles’…
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#76Background music is awesome
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#77The basic failure mode I would expect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeFY9u69tkE The adjoining roads have a large speed differential. The runoff areas around this project do not appear as if designed with this in mind. I predict a few horrible accidents and some hamfisted redesigns. The local news has a ground level view of this project: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jlPMB7c0RyQ
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#78A town I grew up in went absolutely crazy with roundabouts over the last 10 years or so. They built them everywhere. Most are pretty straightforward and they simplify traffic a ton but there were some bad design choices made. Take this similarly confusing double-roundabout for example https://maps.app.goo.gl/VTSrSWsBGnsYyzKU6 There are accidents here almost every week and when an out of towner comes off the interstat…
I grew up in a town in Australia nicknamed “the city of roundabouts.” Four way stops simply don’t exist. When well designed, roundabouts are excellent for traffic flow and reducing accidents and severity of accidents. If I was king for a day I’d replace all four way stops with them.
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#79Hey all, I'm the author of this game. I didn't expect to see it on HN! I wrote it to add some fun to all the conversations happening in the local forums about this roundabout. They've been heated at times. And, yes, this roundabout is right next to the Kirkland Costco. I definitely agree with all the critiques of the gameplay - and I have about 100 more. I cut it down to the bare essentials to get it done while it's…