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An interview with an Apple emoji designer

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Re: An interview with an Apple emoji designer

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Off topic: Perhaps it's just me, but I have a pet peeve about emojis in anything formal. Even before LLMs, I instinctively took a repo less seriously when README.md had emojis in every section. And now LLMs have popularized that style, it's the first signal for me to vibe-detect AI repos. I do use emojis. I love them, actually, but only in message apps.

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Re: An interview with an Apple emoji designer

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post #55

Off topic: Perhaps it's just me, but I have a pet peeve about emojis in anything formal. Even before LLMs, I instinctively took a repo less seriously when README.md had emojis in every section. And now LLMs have popularized that style, it's the first signal for me to vibe-detect AI repos. I do use emojis. I love them, actually, but only in message apps.

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Re: An interview with an Apple emoji designer

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Its kinda odd how a lot of the major tech companies have self censored emojis like they are some savior of the planet for doing so. For example the gun emoji by turning it into a water pistol instead of a real looking firearm handgun lol. WOW THEY SURE CAUSED COUNTLESS LIVES TO BE SAVED W THAT ONE SINGLE MOVE!

It's virtue signaling - nonsense from the same people who unironically say things like "lived experience" and "emotional labor." It shows they're part of a particular group, so they're Good, and if you're not, you're Bad.

I disagree - I think it might be more about predictable-hassle-avoidance.

The media landscape is all about creating sensation, trying to find an edge from something a politician said or a corporation did to generate a headline and some clicks. And as we know, companies like Apple are heavily scrutinised because they’re even better at driving clicks.

So I think Apple is incentivised to look for things which in a reasonable world wouldn’t even register, but which might cause some minor sensation they’d have to deal with, and snuff out that risk beforehand.

Re: An interview with an Apple emoji designer

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Emoji (and their predecessor, emoticons) are IMO the greatest new feature for written language that has happened in generations. Eschewing them is certainly a choice you can make, but I personally think it's a poor one. Authors can now bundle emotional sentiment in text communication. Not being able to do this in the past was usually just an annoyance but could occasionally turn out to be extremely problematic. Count…

However, the lack of standardization between platforms causes its own miscommunication. Some of the icons between Apple and Google can be interpreted in significantly different ways. There is also the pistol[0] which depending on the platform is a water gun or revolver. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_emoji

I explicitly called out different emoji sets conveying subtly different meanings.

Re: An interview with an Apple emoji designer

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Emoji (and their predecessor, emoticons) are IMO the greatest new feature for written language that has happened in generations. Eschewing them is certainly a choice you can make, but I personally think it's a poor one. Authors can now bundle emotional sentiment in text communication. Not being able to do this in the past was usually just an annoyance but could occasionally turn out to be extremely problematic. Count…

And yet you are here, a site completely devoid of emoji.

Because the social norms of this place currently discourage it.

I also don’t use contractions in formal writing settings. Does that make them bad?

Re: An interview with an Apple emoji designer

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Off topic: Perhaps it's just me, but I have a pet peeve about emojis in anything formal. Even before LLMs, I instinctively took a repo less seriously when README.md had emojis in every section. And now LLMs have popularized that style, it's the first signal for me to vibe-detect AI repos. I do use emojis. I love them, actually, but only in message apps.

Emoji themselves aren't the problem. It's more that context changes the meaning completely

Re: An interview with an Apple emoji designer

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post #54

Off topic: Perhaps it's just me, but I have a pet peeve about emojis in anything formal. Even before LLMs, I instinctively took a repo less seriously when README.md had emojis in every section. And now LLMs have popularized that style, it's the first signal for me to vibe-detect AI repos. I do use emojis. I love them, actually, but only in message apps.

Emoji are fun to use because they make written communication more human… corporations or LLMs using them just comes off as insincere.

Emoji work well when they feel like a tiny bit of personality leaking through the text

Re: An interview with an Apple emoji designer

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There is still no walnut emoji. Blonde-haired, black-skinned pregnant man? Yes. Walnut? No.

Be the petty, small change you wish to see in the world: https://joypixels.com/blog/how-to-submit-an-emoji-to-unicode

Also "petty, small change" is exactly the right scale for a walnut emoji campaign
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