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New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Tufts University asked an academic what the financial results were for the UK: "The British GDP has been reduced by 6–8%, business investment has been reduced by 12%, and trade volume has been reduced by 15%, compared to what it could have been if the U.K. had remained in the EU." https://now.tufts.edu/2026/06/08/10-years-after-brexit-vote-...

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The only stupid thing about sanctions on Russia is that they aren't harsh enough.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media. Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked: Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land? Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived the…

Are you British or do you live in Britain?

Why? One can parrot Reform talking points from anywhere.

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Also today: UK cutting infrastructure investments into healthcare and education by £5bn to fund defence [1].

I'm all up for defence spending in Europe, but if you had anything to do with British state education or healthcare, you know what a desperate move this is.

[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-07/uk-plans-...

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media. Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked: Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land? Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived the…

>with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land

actually Britain still see these arrivals. Brexit restored immigration from people with more walks of life and with a more worldwide origins. There is no fast track for any nationality, like when EU citizens didn't need a visa, so companies are blind to origin.

You only got rid of the maudzits français / stronzo francese who liked the queen way too much and feel at home everywhere. The Québécois, the Swiss, the Dutch and a part of Europe look at Britain as an example for that : it's so funny to see them struggle with the UK ETA app while they no longer have Tyrrells crisps, as they keep complaining about british food and were mean about the tapestry anyway.

But was this show worth the losses that Britain had ?

It's never too late to apply again, Britain hasn't deviated from its course of rule of law and democracy

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media. Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked: Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land? Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived the…

Having a storied history, culture, and customs go beyond simple birthright citizenship and xenophobic behavior to enforce said culture and sense of identity. The US, for all its faults, exemplifies how unnecessary it is to rely solely on where you were born— anyone can move to the US, get citizenship, and call themselves “American.” I honestly cannot understand what “connection with the land” even means in reality. M…

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Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media. Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked: Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land? Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived the…

Japan never colonised India, Japan never colonised an African nation, Japan never colonised a Caribbean nation. Britain overnight cannot have a fresh start from its past, even the royals have ties to other nations. The England that was always English never existed and its history will always be rooted in the British empire (where the sun never set).

Well Britain didn't genocide the Chinese. And all the countries colonized by Britain are now better of then those that weren't. Look at ex-Rhodesia.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Also today: UK cutting infrastructure investments into healthcare and education by £5bn to fund defence [1]. I'm all up for defence spending in Europe, but if you had anything to do with British state education or healthcare, you know what a desperate move this is. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-07/uk-plans-...

You don't know how bad it can get. See Ukraine.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Paint me this picture of an immigrant who costs more than they contribute.

I mean, it's not particularly difficult to imagine(and I'm an immigrant to the UK). You move here, then after a while you bring over your retired parents to care for them in their old age. They are not contributing financially to the system but they are costing British taxpayers a lot of money. The point though - it's irrelevant. Even those cases, and even straight up cases where people come here and just go on the d…

Brexit was about leaving Europe, whose immigrants where overwhelmingly young people or couples which would've been net contributors, spending up to a decade before returning to their home countries. I have literally seen this happen dozen of times in my time there.

Myself I have spent almost two decades in Britain, paid my taxes (at the highest rate at that), and decided to leave when I saw that the immigration talk had turned everybody into racist lunatics, and even people like me, from the same continent, were made to feel unwelcome by this rhetoric. For all I care, it's a failed state, yet it has not yet seen the bottom until it progresses its descent into decay, the same that has infected the US and elected Trump.

You will get your Reform government and it'll be Brexit times 10. Only then, maybe, the British people will stop falling for far-right propaganda paid for the Russians.

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None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media. Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked: Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land? Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived the…

Great Radiolab on this topic https://radiolab.org/podcast/americanish-2306 It's also fun to watch people's heads explode over the hypocracy pointed out by this episode. Short version: If Samoa has to follow non-racial discrimination rules than Samoa as a place of Samoans will cease to exist. Without taking a side, the same is true of Israel.

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