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More than 6 out of 10 people turn to AI for psychological support

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Re: More than 6 out of 10 people turn to AI for psychological support

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The suicidality blackmail

Pretty gross comment. Just say you're cool and awesome cause you don't care about people. Virtue signal and move on, why make try to make a fake discussion?

I’m sincere . And blackmailing people this way is the gross part , not pointing it out

Re: More than 6 out of 10 people turn to AI for psychological support

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> "more than 6 in 10 people declare they already use AI for mental health questions. 42% of them almost always follow the advice it gives them." If these numbers were "of people who regularly use GenAI chat tools" then I'd be surprised it was quite so high already, but not shocked and would find it completely believable. But this seems to be "of all people surveyed", which I'm rather skeptical of - unless their sampl…

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Re: More than 6 out of 10 people turn to AI for psychological support

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I haven't done it yet due to privacy concerns, but I would totally do it with a private local model that's as intelligent as current frontier models and is not sycophantic and perhaps is finetuned on the psychology literature. My reasoning is that, if therapy is a well-understood science, then I trust a big finetuned LLM more than a run-of-the-mill human therapist. I will not be able to afford a Harvard trained psych…

> then again I'm not going to be able to afford Sigmund Freud or Carl Jung. Just spin in place chanting “it was my mother’s fault” and you’ll get 99% of the effect.

It's a little both funny and awkward to see all these jokes about Freud while in my particular case "patient was traumatized by dysfunctional family, also patient has incestuous desires" is 100% correct.

Also, I suspect that in 5 to 10 years these ideas will go back to mainstream, especially considering the current fad of calling everyone "daddy" - that word is slowly moving from underground gay fetish into mainstream, and I assume that it didn't appear out of the blue.

Re: More than 6 out of 10 people turn to AI for psychological support

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It partly depends on whether "time spent on screens" is counting time where a person's attention is primarily on the screen, or time when a screen is actively directed at a person. As a few examples from my life (I'm sure there are plenty of other such scenarios too): - There are quite a few hours in a typical week where my phone screen is showing a video, but just because I can't have it playing in the background (e…

The only case I would consider this being a misleading part of the statistic would be (1), and that type of usage is probably too rare to be significant. Multitasking "while watching TV" is probably still harmful. Just focus on the task. For me personally, having the screen there has led to increased anxiousness and loss of my sense of time. Watching TV with a friend is probably less harmful, but its still "just" sit…

I agree that the TV part isn't particularly great itself, but over the years I've had plenty of late nights with TV on ( not as many as with music, which would be my choice if at home) where I can remember conversations had but no memory of what was on the TV

Re: More than 6 out of 10 people turn to AI for psychological support

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Pretty gross comment. Just say you're cool and awesome cause you don't care about people. Virtue signal and move on, why make try to make a fake discussion?

I’m sincere . And blackmailing people this way is the gross part , not pointing it out

Not a single person who read this thread (including you) honestly believes you are trying to have a sincere discussion

Re: More than 6 out of 10 people turn to AI for psychological support

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I recently had to do a very hated, very tedious, very long, very boring task at work and I asked Claude to hype me up and give me a pep talk to conquer the task and it really did a great job. Then I got nervous if IT reads our prompts and felt very sheepish if they would be seeing my asking it that.

Yea it's legit very good at this

Re: More than 6 out of 10 people turn to AI for psychological support

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Worked great for me. Big recommend. "Cured" is mostly an unspecifiable state, and while certainly there's lots still wrong with me, I am healed far beyond my expectations at the outset, so increment your count by one.

Cured would mean you are healed . No more therapeutics , no more abnormalities

I dare you to find a single person without "abnormalities"

Re: More than 6 out of 10 people turn to AI for psychological support

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> then again I'm not going to be able to afford Sigmund Freud or Carl Jung. Just spin in place chanting “it was my mother’s fault” and you’ll get 99% of the effect.

It's a little both funny and awkward to see all these jokes about Freud while in my particular case "patient was traumatized by dysfunctional family, also patient has incestuous desires" is 100% correct. Also, I suspect that in 5 to 10 years these ideas will go back to mainstream, especially considering the current fad of calling everyone "daddy" - that word is slowly moving from underground gay fetish into mainstrea…

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Re: More than 6 out of 10 people turn to AI for psychological support

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Worked great for me. Big recommend. "Cured" is mostly an unspecifiable state, and while certainly there's lots still wrong with me, I am healed far beyond my expectations at the outset, so increment your count by one.

Cured would mean you are healed . No more therapeutics , no more abnormalities

Healing probably is the wrong analogy.

Is a person with a crutch healed? No. But they can walk, when before they could not. Therapy can't erase the past, but it can give people tools to live more capable and rich lives. A crutch doesn't regrow an amputated leg, but it does help that person handle the injury, so in that sense, it 'works'.

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Cured would mean you are healed . No more therapeutics , no more abnormalities

Healing probably is the wrong analogy. Is a person with a crutch healed? No. But they can walk, when before they could not. Therapy can't erase the past, but it can give people tools to live more capable and rich lives. A crutch doesn't regrow an amputated leg, but it does help that person handle the injury, so in that sense, it 'works'.

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