The HN rules need to expand to ban all AI generated posts.
I'm going to ask the same questions I asked the lobsters community. Define "AI generated". Whole article generation? LLM draft with human finish? Human draft with LLM finish? Is proof reading OK? Or is it permanently tainted the second an LLM touches it?
Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M
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Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm going to ask the same questions I asked the lobsters community. Define "AI generated". Whole article generation? LLM draft with human finish? Human draft with LLM finish? Is proof reading OK? Or is it permanently tainted the second an LLM touches it?
pangram says 100% generated. whatever that means: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48350638
By that logic, at least one of my articles is 100% AI generated.
> And just like that, lone has a conservative garbage collector. Until next time. Soon I'll write about—
Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M
#73Train electrification would at minimum reduce pollution from diesel trains, and in the case of Caltrain, improve train services and reduce the number of cars on the road. It is peak irony that a piece of environmental regulation is being used here to delay the upgrade works. On brand for California, of course.
Like is the reason why free X is better is just because whenever rules are made, the maker of rules can be corrupted to make rules for corrupters? And corrupters always exist, so minimizing the rules attack surface is a good strategy. And corrupters try to broaden the attack surface by having more rules and rule generation mechanisms in place.
Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
pangram says 100% generated. whatever that means: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48350638
> pangram gives this a 100% score, on account of the em-dashes. By that logic, at least one of my articles is 100% AI generated. > And just like that, lone has a conservative garbage collector. Until next time. Soon I'll write about—
Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M
#75The HN rules need to expand to ban all AI generated posts.
I'm going to ask the same questions I asked the lobsters community. Define "AI generated". Whole article generation? LLM draft with human finish? Human draft with LLM finish? Is proof reading OK? Or is it permanently tainted the second an LLM touches it?
Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm going to ask the same questions I asked the lobsters community. Define "AI generated". Whole article generation? LLM draft with human finish? Human draft with LLM finish? Is proof reading OK? Or is it permanently tainted the second an LLM touches it?
No, proof reading isn’t okay. No LLM involvement should be allowed whatsoever, exactly the same as the current HN policy on comments.
Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M
#77Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M
#78What is the name for the literary device that LLMs use where it explains something and then follows with a "pithy" "gotcha" sentence? > > Atherton didn't have to win. A CEQA lawsuit doesn't need a strong legal theory to do damage — it just needs to introduce enough risk that funders freeze and clocks keep running. The delay is the weapon. In my opinion, this construct is massively overused by LLMs and is extremely ja…
What it lacks is the effort it takes for a couple minutes to whittle down the writing to the essential parts and bring out the particular style of the author. Even before this wave of LLM stuff started, I knew that it's editing that makes good writing. LLMs are mostly a single-pass process. Maybe it would be improved by having a couple intermediary high-temp thinking stages. the time tradeoff is worth it if it's producing some blog or speech to be consumed by 100s or 1000s of people even if you are only improving the writing by, say, 5%.
To be honest, I don't mind the diagrams when I'm the one prompting it. Other than the fact that it is a waste of tokens, and full of clickable dialogs that waste more of my tokens.
Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M
#79https://climateadvocacylab.org/resource/against-wind-map-ant...
One of their victims was Cape Wind. The project would have made the cape and islands almost 75% carbon-free power for decades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Wind
They've been desperately trying to kill off Vineyard Wind, too. And they have killed off many individual turbine projects.