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Why Gentoo?

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Re: Why Gentoo?

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I have not had the, ahem, privelege yet of installing Gentoo. I gave up on Linux a while back after I bricked my computer because I missed an update on Arch Linux (no joke). Got a macbook and I’ve been happy ever since…well, at least until I was trying to shareplay Mulholland Drive with my girlfriend while she’s out of town and discovered that the only way to manually adjust audio levels of facetime vs, say, the movi…

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Re: Why Gentoo?

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Never used Gentoo, but what is its advantages over, say, Guix? I don't actually use guix or nix as a daily driver, although one year ago I did install Guix on a separate partition of my desktop PC and I use nix via Home manager to install various cli-based tools.

They solve some of the same problems. I wanted to say the project is not focused on being stateful or reproducible, and it isn't, but honestly all the tools are there if you want to craft your install like that. Portage is reminiscent of BSD ports, and features like USE flags are where it really shines. It's designed to be super flexible. Roll your own distro basically.

Re: Why Gentoo?

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> I gave up on Linux a while back after I bricked my computer because I missed an update on Arch Linux (no joke) if you did not want a high maintenance distro why choose Arch? Its meant for the opposite of a Mac user - people who want to control everything, vs people who want it all taken care of for them. There are lots of things in the middle. > I don’t have time to futz around installing Linux distros instead of g…

What are these Linux distributions “in the middle”? I use FreeBSD and Arch primarily. FreeBSD gives me a lot of customisation options(ports ftw) while at the same time, it’s remarkably stable. With Arch I find myself praying shit won’t break with every update, and a lot of 3rd party software just don’t work. Hence why I keep returning to FreeBSD for my servers.

Depending where on the rather broad spectrum between Arch and MacOS you want to be (GP switched from Arch to MacOS because Arch needs maintenance and can break) I would say any of Manjaro, Suse, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, RH and many more.

> Hence why I keep returning to FreeBSD for my servers.

It sounds like you were using Arch on a sever. You use Arch if you are happy fixing breaking changes. its not for something you just want to keep running.

Specifically for servers Debian is an obvious choice. Suse and a few others are fine too. Possibly Alpine if you want something lighter. Nix if it appeals to you. Void is supposed to be a stable rolling distro and is probably appealing to a BSD user. Many more.

Re: Why Gentoo?

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> will be easy to deterministically test side by side. How are you ever going to get test coverage over the massive number of possible system states and configurations? Are you going to compile every package in portage on every architecture it supports?

portage doesn't compile anything. it tells gcc et al to do stuff. the commands it runs are deterministic and the unit tests that portage comes with can easily be used. whether or not some ebuild builds on your machine is kind of between you and gcc and has nothing to do with anything gentoo. I don't really care about it being a replacement overall. I just want my own emerge command to be faster. I can't believe it's…

> portage doesn't compile anything. it tells gcc et al to do stuff.

That's a difference without distinction. Portage does patch packages. So it involves itself directly in the compilation cycle.

> it runs are deterministic

Well, I don't think so, but good luck to you anyways.

Re: Why Gentoo?

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I have not had the, ahem, privelege yet of installing Gentoo. I gave up on Linux a while back after I bricked my computer because I missed an update on Arch Linux (no joke). Got a macbook and I’ve been happy ever since…well, at least until I was trying to shareplay Mulholland Drive with my girlfriend while she’s out of town and discovered that the only way to manually adjust audio levels of facetime vs, say, the movi…

This is the worst comment in the history of HN and I was here to see it.

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Re: Why Gentoo?

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I have not had the, ahem, privelege yet of installing Gentoo. I gave up on Linux a while back after I bricked my computer because I missed an update on Arch Linux (no joke). Got a macbook and I’ve been happy ever since…well, at least until I was trying to shareplay Mulholland Drive with my girlfriend while she’s out of town and discovered that the only way to manually adjust audio levels of facetime vs, say, the movi…

You have a job. Why not pay the $20?

Why am I paying $20 for an audio mixer?

Re: Why Gentoo?

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I have not had the, ahem, privelege yet of installing Gentoo. I gave up on Linux a while back after I bricked my computer because I missed an update on Arch Linux (no joke). Got a macbook and I’ve been happy ever since…well, at least until I was trying to shareplay Mulholland Drive with my girlfriend while she’s out of town and discovered that the only way to manually adjust audio levels of facetime vs, say, the movi…

> I don’t have time to futz around installing Linux distros instead of getting laid like I did as a teenager Good news! These days, you can just buy a computer with Linux preinstalled, with support! Just leave the distro it shipped with alone and live your life.

Yeah, but if I’m not customizing it, Linux is just worse in every way. If you are going to do that why not just buy a Mac?

Re: Why Gentoo?

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You have a job. Why not pay the $20?

Why am I paying $20 for an audio mixer?

Do you go to stores and just take things, too? There is a thing you want. Someone has spent time and money and effort making it. They want money in exchange for goods or services. Yeah it's great that the church down the street is giving food away for free, but in most places you pay money for things.

Re: Why Gentoo?

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> I don’t have time to futz around installing Linux distros instead of getting laid like I did as a teenager Good news! These days, you can just buy a computer with Linux preinstalled, with support! Just leave the distro it shipped with alone and live your life.

Yeah, but if I’m not customizing it, Linux is just worse in every way. If you are going to do that why not just buy a Mac?

> Yeah, but if I’m not customizing it, Linux is just worse in every way

I strongly disagree.

You can customize Linux, but that's not its only benefit.

> If you are going to do that why not just buy a Mac

Because I don't want iOS. I want Linux.

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